Recoil yes or no!!!

I build my rifles heavy AND put brakes on them. I really don't like the concussive blast from regular brakes though, so I use hybrid flash hider brakes - EFAB's - from Precision Armament.

FEENIX said:

Request? My range is first come first served.

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remember he is in Calif and they do things differently

Buffalobwana said:

A wise man once said "Muzzle breaks do not reduce recoil. They just share it with your friends."

I won't hunt with someone with a break. It's dangerous for me and anyone with me and I can't keep an eye on the animal to see if/where it's been hit.

Suppressors are too easy to obtain these days to justify a break in that the added weight does a lot to tame recoil.

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Suppressors are ILLEGAL here…

hydehunter said:

remember he is in Calif and they do things differently

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I used to live in CA, too. Perhaps they do it differently now.

Pro2A said:

....and slap the **** out of ya'. Yeah, that works.....if you're into that fetish....

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Have you actually experienced a good brake? A friend of mine purchased a .338 RUM with a brake. He couldn't get it to group so I told him, "Hold it like a bb gun." Immediately he started getting about 3/4" groups.

I have a brake on my AR. The brake & the single stage trigger helps to get that 2nd shot near the first one. I can image what would happen if I shot close & over dry dusty dirt. The brake looks ugly & sort of sinister - looks like the end of a tank cannon but many times smaller.

My 2 biggest rifles are kickers and have nice thick Pachmayr pads what soak up some of the energy instead of my olde body.



Momentum (Newton) is mass (weight) X velocity. In the equation bullet velocity, powder/gas velocity & gun weight are known and from that gun velocity can be calculated. Knowing the velocity and mass of the gun (weight/ accel. gravity, 32 fps/fps) the kinetic recoil energy may then be calculated.

The .300 WM has a high comb stock & a 26" #5 barrel. The .375 is a M77 MKII having the Ruger laminated stock. Both weigh the same. I can handle/stand some 20 rounds from the .300WM shooting from a bench but shooting the .375 from a bench feels something like boxing punches.

My 300 win mag and 7 prc with a Browning recoil hawg make it feel like I'm shooting a 243.... sure makes it hard to go back to not using a brake.

My recoil limit in rifes is the 416 rem mag .I shot a 470 capstick that had broken 9 scopes and 3 stocks it was terrible

They say that big bores don't have as bad of a perceived recoil due to the slower recoil impulse. Well, I had a T/C Encore .416 Rigby that didn't live up to the claim. Granted, it weighed in the neighborhood of 7 lbs since it only had open sights. I loaded up a couple rounds of 400 gr Partitions at book maximum load (somewhere north of 100 grains of powder) and shot it. That was the heaviest and fastest recoil impulse I've ever felt. It made my old Mossberg 835 with 3.5" turkey loads feel like a pussycat. I was holding it with a very tight grip with both hands because I knew it would be nasty. Even with that, the front inside of the trigger guard hit my trigger finger so hard I thought it might have broken it. So naturally, I shot it again. You know, the old NHRA drag racing policy that if you ran a record time, you had to back it up for it to count. After that, my manhood solidly proven, I sold the barrel, brass, and dies to the next dumbazz in line. Thankfully, no flinch developed afterward.

Actually I do partially agree only because my 30-378 Wby seems to recoil softer then my 300 RUM or 300 Wby. I have often likened it to a push that builds up versus others that have that sharp recoil. But it also weighs a hair over 10 lbs and it's my heaviest gun.

I'll put the theory to a test with a Ruger No. 1 in 375 Ackley Improved that I recently picked up. Just about to load up some 250 gr Barnes TTSX bullets. No... it's not the heavy weight for the caliber but I'll be working up to a max load for it as long as the accurancy holds up. So be in interesting how the recoil is. No brake on it and it's not a bull barrel so she's going to have some whump to it!!!

And dang it... I was the dumbazz that wanted a 416 barrel for my TC Pro Hunter!!! Passed up on one once and haven't seen another since!!!

recoil has nothing to do with pain and 100% to do with recoil management. If your shooting a hunting rifle that "hurts" your not even close to doing things the right way. Especially when long range is involved

Calvin45 said:

I do believe you but it's just so dang hard to believe!

I have a 450 Ackley…it is not even remotely in the same universe as a 94 30-30. Heck on occasion I've held a marlin 336 or a Winchester 94 (done it with both) out away from my body with one arm, like a huge awkward handgun, and tried to see if I can hit like a cinder block or something with one arm and no shoulder contact. I have done no shortage of this tomfoolery in my youth with 12 guage slugs as well, they do kick but I can hang on no problem.

If I tried that with the 450 Ackley I think it'd teach me a lesson.

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Brother, you are a gluten for punishment. You sound like my old man. I built him a .458 Win Mag when I was in gunsmith school, as a father's day gift. He had read about the caliber and said he always wanted one... just because. My Pop was a truck driver and a very big man at 6'5'' 240 lbs. He used to like to shoot tin cans and cinder blocks with that darned thing. He was shooting it one day and ended up scope cutting himself over the right eye. He just laughed about it but after looking at the rifle I found that it had sheared off a couple of the 6x48 screws. I ended up putting 8x40s in it. Recoil can make you bleed!

Buffalobwana said:

A wise man once said "Muzzle breaks do not reduce recoil. They just share it with your friends."

I won't hunt with someone with a break. It's dangerous for me and anyone with me and I can't keep an eye on the animal to see if/where it's been hit.

Suppressors are too easy to obtain these days to justify a break in that the added weight does a lot to tame recoil.

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Truly a silly quote. Obviously, the "wise man" never used one.