I let the gun tell me if its max load or not if that's were it shoots then that's were I run it and hornady brass has failed me everytime. I dont like to prep brass and then throw it away after 2 or 3 firings not only is it time consuming then the cost is irrelevant to better more expensive brass that you dont have to spend a to of time prepping.
30 NOSLER OR 300 PRC
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Wow you just keep going. I have had a 27 inch 300WM it ran 2890. I had a 28 300wm it ran 2950. I have had(still have one) 30 noslers with 26" barrels. They both ran 3040. Maybe that is not big enough difference for you to spend the extra money on components but saying the 30 Nosler is in 300 WM territory is a stretch.
Running a 30 Nosler at 3050 is not throttled back in a 26 in barrel and honestly that is likely over 60k psi. I run everything I own until the brass says that is enough but I also know it as most likely over pressure.
WildRose
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Tightening primer pockets is a very easy fix. All you need is a small hammer, a half inch ball bearing and a caliber sized straight long necked punch.
I really need to take the time to figure this out.
WildRose
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A little over 2.00ea for .300 RUM brass
WildRose
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Set the brass on the ball bearing, punch down the throat, tap with a hammer. You'll get the hang of it and the "touch" after just a few.
I am going to play with it. I think maybe I have seen you post it elsewhere and I just keep forgetting.
WildRose
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I've been shooting hornady brass for over 30 years numerous calibers without that problem.
I may toss a few more a little quicker than with some of the others but not enough to make any difference and cost wise it averages out.
Since getting my first .375 Ruger I've run through a lot of it without any issues and of course my 6.5LRM is running Hornady Brass as well and I'm pushing 130's at 3400FPS in it now.
The main reason I steer clear is because the few cartridges I have had Hornady brass for the weight variance was quite large. Like I said with some cartridges it doesn't matter others it can.
WildRose
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Ahh. Check your weights before prepping then. You're not going to lose more than a grain trimming and neck turning.
maybe I am missing what you are saying but I am saying internal volume was very different from case to case. As most know with Lapua, Nosler, Norma weight sorting is not needed so those have historically been my go to choices.
I personally have saw poor pocket life in some of nosler brass and better life in different cartridges of nosler brass. But all in all it seems fairly consistent( I know that's not the topic you guys are addressing) but the majority of it needs to be improved for better pocket life. Not many companies can touch lapua. Sounds like Peterson's is about there. I really think that one day Hornady will get serious and go head to head with lapua brass but right now they are obviously trying to get a piece of the pie with military contracts and hopefully that will position them to have room to focus on better brass. I know of people who have talked to hornady about their brass and from hornady's standpoint it's as good as lapua but I guess you can't expect them to say yea we know it's not good as lapua. I'm not kidding myself about it because I know their probably not going to make a ton of money from great brass like they do in loaded ammo. I can make their brass perform like I want it to but it's not something I look forward to. I apologize to you guys for beating a dead horse on the brass quality subject but you can go to any long range shooting forum an read just a little bit to see how hungry alot of people are for really good brass in whatever it is they are shooting.
I am not sure we need to keep talking about it but it is completely relevant as far as I am concerned. Brass is always a consideration when I decide on a new build. I have been happy with Nosler brass in the 30. The bullets dictate what velocity they want to run at and be accurate in each rifle. In the 30, I have found this to be around 3040. At that speed I am finding the brass last reasonably well. I see people running the 6.5x284 hot and getting very few reloads on the brass but Lapua never gets a bad rap for that. If you spend enough time you can sift through those who are pushing some kind of agenda and those just stating facts. I am confident the 30 Nosler vs PRC debate will continue far past the death of the first one. The truth is you can find pluses and minuses for both. We won't really have an idea about the PRC in PRC form for at least six months, probably more like a year depending on how many share info on forums.
I don't understand why everyone seems to think the Nosler is such a good design and that it will win out over time? The spec is for a OAL of 3.4". Nosler pounded the nail in their own coffin as soon as they decided to do that. No other companies will produce factory ammo for it, ever. And if the big companies can't make loaded ammo for it why would they make the components? It will always remain a boutique cardrigde relegated to the world of handloaders.
Time will tell, but if the military is picking up the PRC I would think that other companies will start producing loaded ammo. If multiple companies are producing loaded ammo, the components will follow.
Hornady showed us the roadmap to mainstream adoption with the Creedmoor, Nosler hamstringed their rounds out of the gate. My money would be on Hornady.
Time will tell, but if the military is picking up the PRC I would think that other companies will start producing loaded ammo. If multiple companies are producing loaded ammo, the components will follow.
Hornady showed us the roadmap to mainstream adoption with the Creedmoor, Nosler hamstringed their rounds out of the gate. My money would be on Hornady.
