Yes handloading Hogden 4831 i think 58.5 grains of powder. I haven't done much load development yet just loaded a load and it shot good. Want to get a load for the 168 Bergers. I think that is a great price. I think those cheaper rifles that Nosler builds make folks think the custom is about the same quality. I love mine! Us lefties have a hard time coming across a good rifle.