Seabeeken
Well-Known Member
I know this is a 2 yr old thread. I recently started testing/using patch out, accelerator, and tactical advantage. Cleaned a few rifles, one with 485 rounds thru it. First, when I smelled PO and TA, I did smell ammonia and also the same cleaner that is in KG1 carbon remover. I tried accelerator and leaving the products over night. They removed copper and powder fouling but hard packed in carbon remained even after 3 applications. Patches alone wont get it clean. In all fairness, the dozens of cleaners Ive tested performed similarly, some better than others. After the wipe out products, I used flitz bore cleaner/liquid polish to easily remove the hard carbon with 25 brush strokes. The carbon ring was removed using a brush with flitz and the brush turned in the throat. I use a brush 2 calibers larger for this. I like wipe out as it reduces the amount of work. The products I found I liked best were bore tech, KG1 & 2, and Flitz. The rest went to the dump. If your results haven't been proven with a bore scope, then Id say your rifle isn't as clean as you think. Ive seen clean patches come out of heavily carboned barrels and I mean barrels caked so heavily that rifling wasn't visible from shooting under caliber bullets such as .308 bullets in 303 and 311/12 bores. A couple were so heavily carboned that I started with 308 brushes fitting snug and finished with 35 cal brushes that were lightly snug. These bores were badly pitted with no rifling left. Folks need to learn on their own what works and many take it personally when told their solvent doesnt work. I stopped using JB and went to KG2 because it cleans from the barrel easier and less mess. I use it when a barrel is in horrible shape with hard carbon that flitz has trouble with. Anything will remove powder fouling but carbon is a different animal. Apologies for being long winded here. YMMV and TETO
