MNbogboy
Well-Known Member
Mike,
No arguement about the K&M tool, I've seen it work and understand fully what it can do (at times I even wish I had one)....Years ago I set up a press soley for priming...With a homemade indicator at the end of an extension tapped into the end of the handle..I could read .002 of an inch of primer movement at about 1/32" at the indicator plate...By running the primer pin into the empty pocket I could get my "zero" then by adding the desired primer depth factor I could easily pull up on the press handle to the setting on the indicator plate...Although the leverage is not linear the indicator plate could be calibrated accordingly....I know if I still had it I think it could probably do most of what the K&M does plus give a little more leverage and maybe be a little faster....It was bulky however and required very rigid mounting parallel with the wall.....
The mechanical advantage at the indicator plate was right around 16:1 if I remember right....Yes I could easily get .002 crush actually I ran up to about .005 back then....But to be honest with you I wasn't sorting primers for length back then but I did get very consistent primer to head readings....plus or minus a thou or less....
Point I was trying to make is that with all the considerations taken in account of producing quality ammo...The primer is one with a lesser degree of variability as long as it is seated "correctly" and with reasonable "consistency"....Most of your long range hunters on this forum are not measuring every primer before and after they are seated, but they still can make their rifles shoot well....And I don't think there are very many guys and gals on here wanting to throw away any primers in this day and age.
Buying all the fancy tools in the world will not make them or anybody the world's greatest handloader...An analogy comes to mind that when I used to build dirt race cars it took a lot of money to make them competitive....But some guys had a lot more money in their cars with every gimmick in the book but that didn't make them good race car drivers...
In this case the OP was asking for advice concerning a problem but selling him every tool in the catalog won't fix it unless he finds the root cause....He can digest all the information he has collected here and form his own conclusion...
Randy
No arguement about the K&M tool, I've seen it work and understand fully what it can do (at times I even wish I had one)....Years ago I set up a press soley for priming...With a homemade indicator at the end of an extension tapped into the end of the handle..I could read .002 of an inch of primer movement at about 1/32" at the indicator plate...By running the primer pin into the empty pocket I could get my "zero" then by adding the desired primer depth factor I could easily pull up on the press handle to the setting on the indicator plate...Although the leverage is not linear the indicator plate could be calibrated accordingly....I know if I still had it I think it could probably do most of what the K&M does plus give a little more leverage and maybe be a little faster....It was bulky however and required very rigid mounting parallel with the wall.....
The mechanical advantage at the indicator plate was right around 16:1 if I remember right....Yes I could easily get .002 crush actually I ran up to about .005 back then....But to be honest with you I wasn't sorting primers for length back then but I did get very consistent primer to head readings....plus or minus a thou or less....
Point I was trying to make is that with all the considerations taken in account of producing quality ammo...The primer is one with a lesser degree of variability as long as it is seated "correctly" and with reasonable "consistency"....Most of your long range hunters on this forum are not measuring every primer before and after they are seated, but they still can make their rifles shoot well....And I don't think there are very many guys and gals on here wanting to throw away any primers in this day and age.
Buying all the fancy tools in the world will not make them or anybody the world's greatest handloader...An analogy comes to mind that when I used to build dirt race cars it took a lot of money to make them competitive....But some guys had a lot more money in their cars with every gimmick in the book but that didn't make them good race car drivers...
In this case the OP was asking for advice concerning a problem but selling him every tool in the catalog won't fix it unless he finds the root cause....He can digest all the information he has collected here and form his own conclusion...
Randy