Who can get my savage to shoot

[Terrytf]

I need a new barrel in my .243 savage I was told buy barnes a 1 and 8.5 twist would be great . I will be shooting 80g TTSX . I would like to make this a real nice shooter this will be my play riffle and the one I take and teach my twin boys to shoot . Anyone have a smith in mind

 

[Broz]

That seems like a fast twist for 80 gr bullets. What is it now? Even a 1 in 10 should shoot 80's. If you have been shooting the solid copper barnes in it already she pobably is coppered up. Might try a good cleaning with BoreTech Eliminator or CU+2

Jeff

 

[Terrytf]

I have cleaned it very well every time out . it has a 1 and 9.5 twist now . My thing now if this 1 & 8.5 wont shoot my lead free I know it will shoot 115 gr Match VLD and use it for a long range squirrel gun . but as of now barnes is telling me it will make a bid difference in my groupings.

 

[bruce_ventura]

Barnes CS usually gives good advice, but this one doesn't pass the smell test. FWIW, my Steyr .243 has 1:10 twist and seems to stabilize 85 gr TSX just fine. Have you tried varying COAL? How far off the lands is it now?

 

[lngrnghunter]

I shoot the 80gr, TTSX in a 243 WSSM with 42.2 gr of IMR 4007ssc WLR primers in a 1-10 twist barrel.It did take me forever to find a load for it.

 

[flyin lizard]

How many rounds down the barrel that you have ?

 

[Broz]

I have cleaned it very well every time out . it has a 1 and 9.5 twist now . My thing now if this 1 & 8.5 wont shoot my lead free I know it will shoot 115 gr Match VLD and use it for a long range squirrel gun . but as of now barnes is telling me it will make a bid difference in my groupings.

What solvent did you use to clean it?

Jeff

 

[bruce_ventura]

I shoot the 80gr, TTSX in a 243 WSSM with 42.2 gr of IMR 4007ssc WLR primers in a 1-10 twist barrel.It did take me forever to find a load for it.

I'm still working on my Steyr .243. Using 85 gr TSX, I'm getting about 1.2" 5-shot groups at 100 yds, and 3120 fps from a 20" barrel with 45.5 gr of H4350. I seat the bullet .050" off the lands.

I also shoot 62 gr VGs with this rifle. The last trip to the range I played with seating depth and saw that reducing the jump helped tighten the groups. I'm going to try that next with the TSX loads.

Any other suggestions?

 

[Terrytf]

What solvent did you use to clean it?

Jeff

Barnes CR 10

How many rounds down the barrel that you have ?

600 BARNES 200 Hornady 100 Nosler 20 Barnes loaded 20 hornady loaded 2 boxies of winchester ...so 980 so far the best was the lead winchesters lead 5 shoots in a dime at 100y the rest I might hit a COW !

Barnes CS usually gives good advice, but this one doesn't pass the smell test. FWIW, my Steyr .243 has 1:10 twist and seems to stabilize 85 gr TSX just fine. Have you tried varying COAL? How far off the lands is it now?

I have try max (jamming the lands) to 2. off the lands and every thing in between at .05.I tried 4 powders in each load that showed potential .

 

[Broz]

Barnes CR 10



600 BARNES 200 Hornady 100 Nosler 20 Barnes loaded 20 hornady loaded 2 boxies of winchester ...so 980 so far the best was the lead winchesters lead 5 shoots in a dime at 100y the rest I might hit a COW !


I have try max (jamming the lands) to 2. off the lands and every thing in between at .05.I tried 4 powders in each load that showed potential .

With 600+ Barnes TTSX down the tube and using CR-10 I say it is copper fouled. I have put a lot of time into proper cleaning and what works on copper. You have all this against you. A rilfe with pretty high velocity, a factory tube that is probably rough and a solid copper bullet that copper fouls even the smoothest barrels. I would be getting a bottle of BoreTech CU+2 if it does not sell you on it I will buy it from you. I take it it once shot well with the TTSX or you would not have shot 600 of them. Just saying.

Jeff

 

[bruce_ventura]

...so 980 so far the best was the lead winchesters lead 5 shoots in a dime at 100y the rest I might hit a COW !...

?!? I suspect the muzzle crown is damaged. Have you ruled that out?

 

[Terrytf]

With 600+ Barnes TTSX down the tube and using CR-10 I say it is copper fouled. I have put a lot of time into proper cleaning and what works on copper. You have all this against you. A rilfe with pretty high velocity, a factory tube that is probably rough and a solid copper bullet that copper fouls even the smoothest barrels. I would be getting a bottle of BoreTech CU+2 if it does not sell you on it I will buy it from you. I take it it once shot well with the TTSX or you would not have shot 600 of them. Just saying.

Jeff

I will get some tomarow and give it a try . and no the only one that has shot well is the lead 95g winchester . but I live in a lead free zone so thats what I load and shoot

?!? I suspect the muzzle crown is damaged. Have you ruled that out?

no I have not

 

[Terrytf]

DONE-WITH-IT it's going away where it can shoot lead