First of all thanks to everyone who offered there knowledge. I have ordered the Hilleberg AKTO tent and THermarest Xtherm pad I am almost ready to pull the trigger on the Marmot 0 Trestles Elite bag at 3.12LB, and Sierra BackCounty bivy at 14oz. I already have one of those emergency foil looking bags. Im not sure how the foil bag could come into play but i figured it wont hurt to have it. With this setup how cold do you think one could sleep comfortably?
What Tent and sleeping bag combo?
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Sounds like you are getting your kit together for a fantastic hunt. I forgot to mention this during my AKTO post but for insurance, just in case, I use a sleeping bag liner. Mine is Made by Sea To Summit and is called a Reactor and it's made of a fabric called Thermolite. I've had this one for several years now. Good luck on your upcoming trip. Stay safe.
Danehunter
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The foil bag can be your VBL (Vapor Barrier Liner) for your sleeping bag to keep it from accumulating body moisture, more and more each night. That moisture steadily decreases the down's insulating ability even if the down has a water resistant treatment.
Wear light polyester (not wool) long johns for sleeping in the VBL bag and try to dry them each day.
May the red gods of the hunt smile upon you.
Eric B.
BTW, here is my tent and sleep system:
TENT-> Tarptent Moment DW (Double Wall) solo tent
SLEEP SYSTEM-> Western Mountaineering factory overfilled Megalite bag (20 F.)
REI FLASH Insulated air mattress W/Sea to Summit inflator bag (Do not breath into your mattress, it robs it of insulating value and introduces mold-causing bacteria.)
Wear light polyester (not wool) long johns for sleeping in the VBL bag and try to dry them each day.
May the red gods of the hunt smile upon you.
Eric B.
BTW, here is my tent and sleep system:
TENT-> Tarptent Moment DW (Double Wall) solo tent
SLEEP SYSTEM-> Western Mountaineering factory overfilled Megalite bag (20 F.)
REI FLASH Insulated air mattress W/Sea to Summit inflator bag (Do not breath into your mattress, it robs it of insulating value and introduces mold-causing bacteria.)
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Thanks for the info. I ended up ordering a Kifaru 0 degree bag. I am assuming you would use the foil bag inside the sleeping bag??
Danehunter
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Yep, I would use the foil bag from the first day IF I was staying more than 3 days.
That 0F. bag should do the trick. Remember you can lower that bag's temperature range by wearing medium to heavy poly long johns.
REMEMBER, clothes worn inside the VBL foil bag will be very damp from your body sweat and will need to be dried. These long johns are ONLY for sleeping, as are the socks.
->Also when in a tent where my feet will likely touch the frosty interior tent wall I zip up my Gore-Tex parka snd slide it all the way over the foot of my sleeping bag. Keeps the foot of the bag from melting the tent wall frost nd it gives more warmth where you need it most.
->And you can lay your pants and shirt or sweater flat under your mattress for more insulation.
->Finally I recommend a light fleece balaclava for sleeping B/C it's very difficult to sleep in a bag with the hood cinched down to only a "blow hole".
Also I recommend you carry the balaclava during the dayin the event of very bad weather. The blaclava can be worn under a regular cap if the cap is adjustable.
After your trip you can send me $10. in gratitude for the balaclava tip. ;o)
Eric B.
That 0F. bag should do the trick. Remember you can lower that bag's temperature range by wearing medium to heavy poly long johns.
REMEMBER, clothes worn inside the VBL foil bag will be very damp from your body sweat and will need to be dried. These long johns are ONLY for sleeping, as are the socks.
->Also when in a tent where my feet will likely touch the frosty interior tent wall I zip up my Gore-Tex parka snd slide it all the way over the foot of my sleeping bag. Keeps the foot of the bag from melting the tent wall frost nd it gives more warmth where you need it most.
->And you can lay your pants and shirt or sweater flat under your mattress for more insulation.
->Finally I recommend a light fleece balaclava for sleeping B/C it's very difficult to sleep in a bag with the hood cinched down to only a "blow hole".
Also I recommend you carry the balaclava during the dayin the event of very bad weather. The blaclava can be worn under a regular cap if the cap is adjustable.
After your trip you can send me $10. in gratitude for the balaclava tip. ;o)
Eric B.
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petbug
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Western Mountaineering down bag (-7C), Exped Downmat UL7 and Hilleberg tent (Akto or Unna). One man tent is light and warm!
Like the others, get a "really cold" rated bag. 0 degree should do it. You can always kick a leg out if you get hot. Idaho usually doesn't get pounded with 3 feet of snow at a time but whatever tent you use, if you get snow, you'll need to knock it off from the inside a couple times a night. It's kind'a hard cause getting a snow seems to make for the coziest sleeps you'll ever get! Almost every tent will be nearly as cold as it is outside (give or take) so it's all about the sleeping pad and the bag. IMO, a good sleeping pad is more important than having a super expensive bag. For me, it's the ground that sucks the heat out'a me throughout the night. I rate a good pad just behind a pair of good boots.
WanderingGoatie
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I'm not ultra experienced but from the camping I've done I've moved away from synthetics for down. It's never as warm to me, and it has been heavier. A friend turned me on to Enlightened Equipment quilts. I've only camped with mine this summer but I like the design of a quilt. Also, it's half the weight of the marmot bag I was using.
Bassin_Rob
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I had the Nemo dagger and in 3 trips it broke 2 times. I wasn't overly impressed. Ended up taking it back and going to purchase a Hilleberg.
As for my Sleeping bag I got the Mountain Hardware Ratio. Got it for a great price and it's been nice the handful of times I've used it.
As for my Sleeping bag I got the Mountain Hardware Ratio. Got it for a great price and it's been nice the handful of times I've used it.
Try taking a look at Arctic oven tent
308stillbrass
SCAMMER
For tents the Henry Shires Tarp Tents are hard to beat. They have all sorts of configurations, are light, tough and very affordable.
Well the hunt is over. Figured I would tell my experience. First of all pack weight was 47 lbs plus 9 or so for rifle. Climber 3000 plus feet and 2.5 miles or so first day. Weather was 15 deg with 30 mph winds the first night. Set up the Hilleberge tent in the snow, the Thermarest mattress, KIFARU 0 deg bag. Climbed in with all my clothes on minus boots. Stayed warm all night long. Went a few more miles Weather got nice after that and all was well. Stayed 5 nights on the mountain. Killed a nice 3x4. Thanks for all the help with the gear setup.
Don A Parsons
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I like today's new lite weight tents with wood or exhaust pipe propane heaters...
Light weight and easy to pack,,, warm and dry allows for many days in the feild...
Cheers from the North
Light weight and easy to pack,,, warm and dry allows for many days in the feild...
Cheers from the North
