I own 2 savage rifles . the edge I won at a NRA dinner and just bought the 243 . The edge I had to buy a trigger for stock it was over 10 now it shoots great and that's why I bought the savage 11 fns . I was really surprised to see how mush less of a rifle it is next to my savage edge .the accutriger will only come down to 3lb and the stock will move side to side 1" if not more . called savage and they have still not called me back . I had all intentions on getting a 116 FCSS or 111 Long Range Hunter with out the Karsten adjustable comb. Now after my last buy in in November I'm a little worried on another Savage . and thats why I'm going with the 700 . I almost went to the gun show in veges to go finger a new savage and Remington and buy from the balance of two but work keeps me here . more and more I here and read the 700 has better balance . at this time there are not a lot of people that shoot out past 500 y around here maybe 3 and they are .308 shooters at paper . So it makes it realy hard to get out and see what I like and what I want . I would of never bought the 243 if I had seen it first..
roninflag the offer was for any factory rifle 1300.00 or less at dealer cost
I'm from the school that with a Remington your paying $250 for the name tag, and getting $250 less than the competetion. They have no quality controll up there in New Yak, or they don't know how to do it! I know it's blunt, but it's a fact.
Do you realize what $1300 will buy you on the open market compaired to any $1300 Remington? Call it 50% more rifle right up front! With a Savage you get a better chamber right away, and a better built barrel. Everybody knows this these days except for the salesman trying to make a buck. With the Savage you get better case alignment to the bolt head right upfront. A better trigger that won't get you or somebody else killed. And action length that is properly proportioned for the medium (51mm) case length. The lock time alone on the Savage is better than a Remington with all the custom doo dads you can put on it. The Savage target trigger is the best (production trigger) out there period unless you buy an Anschutze. The Savage Accustock is the best production stock built period. Savage stocks ride the bags better than any other production stock out there. I mean to say that not everybody is going to send an action to somebody else and dump another $2000 in it! Most everybody is looking for a shooter right out of the box. You won't get that with anything outta New Yak
The Edge; not my favorite Savage. The trigger is not the one on the varmit rifles or target rifles, and looks to be non adjustable. But a 3.5LB. it's better than 90% out there out of the box. I don't like the stock, and that's my main beef with it. Still you can't beat the price tag. I have a couple friends that shoot them, and they love them (so be it). One guy brought me in a five bull target he shot off of shooting sticks. The chamber was .270 Winchester, and he was shooting either Hornaday or Federal Supreme factory loads. The biggest group was right at one inch, and the best were under 3/4". The other guy shoots a .243, and claims it will shoot a little over half inch groups (note I said claims). Brother inlaw has an F116 in 30-06. The rifle shoots 3/4" groups with Federal factory loads all day long. I think I can put the rifle in the .60" range and not work hard. I've seen Savage slug guns shoot sub MOA groups at 100 yards.
The first Savage I bought was a 112BVSS-S single shot varmit rig that had the laminated stock. Was chambered in 22-250, and started out shooting in the low threes. The trigger was horrible (this was a pre acuutrigger gun). But the stock rode the bags fairly well. The gun would shoot an occassional high ones at 100 yards on a good day. The next one was a 112BVSS that was a repeater, but otherwise identicle. I bought the gun used, and could tell the guy was heavy handed when he cleaned the barrel. It still started out in the high threes, and will shoot mid twos regularly. I did install a Rifle Basix trigger and pillar bed it due to some problems created by using way too much oil by the previous owner (the trigger is set at 16 oz.) I have swapped barrels a couple times on it, and got similar results (my 6/250AI barrel will print .25" groups all day long). I also have a mod. 12 BVSS-S that I have not done much with, but shoots better than the others out of the box. It will get the 6/250 barrel on a perminate basis when ever I get the time (although I'm kinda looking at a slow twist 30BR notion right now).
I've had some Remingtons as well over the years, and can only think of one I wish I'd kept (a nice little 270 Winchester 700 ADL). Currently I own two 541's, and a 700VS that's been completely rebuilt right outta the box). My 541's shoot pretty good with one doing .80" groups at 100 yards. The 700 struggles to shoot in the low fours, but it will with some work. On the otherhand I have two 30-06 Weatherbys that shoot 3/4" groups right out of the box with nothing but a scope attached. I have a Marlin that does the samething (MR-7). My MK.V. 270mag shoots 3/4" groups as well with factory ammo ( it was a hundred dollars cheaper than a 270 winchester in a 700 by the way). But alas the 700VS does shoot better than my Lo-Wall or my HI-wall in 38-55 (also shoots better than my two 99's). But only a little better than my T/C in .222 remington (it'll shoot in the low sixes all day long)
gary
