What is the max range of my elk hunting load?

What is the max range in yards?

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AGREED!! I watch a guy shoot a cow elk with a 25-06 at 300 yards with a 115 gr. partition. Perfect lung shot and the elk ran for miles and we never did find it. I would have said bad shot placement but i watched it hit. The next day he shot another cow at about the same distance with my 338 wm and was sold. She ran 10 yards and dumped over. When we got back home he went and bought one.

+1 on saving for a BIG game rifle.

I am in total agreement in saving for an elk rifle if he wants to continue to hunt elk, on the other hand, I don't think he needs to stay home this year if that's all he has! If he uses common sense on range, bullet selection and shot placement, etc., he should be just fine. I have killed nearly 30 bulls with a 6.5 and never had one get away until this year when I made the foolish mistake of trying to stretch the capability of the rifle/bullet combination. My opinion.......Rich
 
I am in total agreement in saving for an elk rifle if he wants to continue to hunt elk, on the other hand, I don't think he needs to stay home this year if that's all he has! If he uses common sense on range, bullet selection and shot placement, etc., he should be just fine. I have killed nearly 30 bulls with a 6.5 and never had one get away until this year when I made the foolish mistake of trying to stretch the capability of the rifle/bullet combination. My opinion.......Rich

Rich i agree, with the right placement that round will work for an elk. If he plans to hunt elk regularly id say stepping it up a little.

Eric
 
Yes, he should hunt with his .25-06 if:
the .25-06 is all he has,
there is no one he can borrow a more fitting rifle from,
his funds don't allow him to purchase something more fitting,
he used a bullet that will not shed ANY weight (Barnes or other all-copper),
he is 100% sure he will put the bullet behind the shoulder muscle into the lungs,
he hunts where he can recover an elk even if it doesn't drop soon,
he's willing to forgo any shot beyond 300 yards if there is a rest or any shot beyond 200 yards without a rest,
and (most importantly),
he will forgo any shot, even at a MONSTER elk, that isn't 100% positive to be within these constraints.

A huge part of this discussion wasn't given to us, "where he's hunting". If he's hunting the remote mountain wilderness with lots of timber, a .25-06 is a very poor choice since he may never find the elk he shot. In open terrain where recovery of game is much easier, a slow-kill should still mean a recovery so a .25-06 isn't as bad of an idea.

Me personally, I would find something more substantial to kill an elk with as I know I would not want to pass on a 8x8 bull because he wouldn't give me a quartering away shot within 300 yards! As hard as it is for me to get elk hunting, I don't want to be hunting with a rifle that may mean a failed hunt.

People have killed elk with smaller rounds. It can be done, but a .25-06 still leaves you with virtually no margin for error in a game where everything doesn't always go as planned.
 
25-06 is a great coyote round.I've seen a bunch of 150lb whitetails wounded with factory ammo and deer facing away. Hits that would vaporize a deer with a 30-06. I killed a lotta deer as a kid with a .22 in the lungs. Doent make it smart...or legal.
 
Perfect lung shot at 300 yards with a 115 gr partition and the elk runs for miles? This statement is beyond ridiculous. Definately stay at home unless you have the trusty 338, anything less would be a crime against humanity or at least some major blog pontificators. LOL
 
Perfect lung shot at 300 yards with a 115 gr partition and the elk runs for miles? This statement is beyond ridiculous. Definately stay at home unless you have the trusty 338, anything less would be a crime against humanity or at least some major blog pontificators. LOL


How long have you been hunting elk? I said that it could be done in my next statement if you read on in the thread.. not my choice gun to use though.

It is ridiculous for you to tell me that we didnt case an elk that was hit with a 115 gr partition in the lung after i had just stated that we did.

Im not trying to be confrontational but i question how much you have elk hunted with your statement being ridiculous about an elk going miles with a lung shot....
 
You stated that it was a" perfect lung " shot. My question to you would be: did you see the bullet enter and exit? My guess would be maybe it wasn't a "perfect lung " shot. Did you have this on film and inspect the shot afterwards?

Ridiculous is the leap you take when this eye-witness perfect lung shot is used as evidence why someone should leave their 25-06 at home.

I'm sure you've killed your fair share of elk just like me and sometimes things happen that can't be explained. These things happen to all calibers not just 25s.
 
You stated that it was a" perfect lung " shot. My question to you would be: did you see the bullet enter and exit? My guess would be maybe it wasn't a "perfect lung " shot. Did you have this on film and inspect the shot afterwards?

Ridiculous is the leap you take when this eye-witness perfect lung shot is used as evidence why someone should leave their 25-06 at home.

I'm sure you've killed your fair share of elk just like me and sometimes things happen that can't be explained. These things happen to all calibers not just 25s.
They happen far less frequently when you bring enough gun.

I don't care how much bravado is spread about the internet no one makes a perfect hit every time and once you pull the trigger physics and nature are very much working against you and there's nothing further you can do about it.

Particularly with the partitions you have the problem of bullets penciling through without opening unless they hit bone. When that happens it's very easy for the lungs not to collapse or to fill with blood/fluid and bring the animal down for a long time.

Higher velocities and higher energy on target means greater hydrostatic shock and thus when the shot is not perfect you can still get a much cleaner kill.
 
You stated that it was a" perfect lung " shot. My question to you would be: did you see the bullet enter and exit? My guess would be maybe it wasn't a "perfect lung " shot. Did you have this on film and inspect the shot afterwards?

Ridiculous is the leap you take when this eye-witness perfect lung shot is used as evidence why someone should leave their 25-06 at home.

I'm sure you've killed your fair share of elk just like me and sometimes things happen that can't be explained. These things happen to all calibers not just 25s.

Ok first off i seen the bullet impact as to what i thought was a perfect lung shot. Sorry didn't know we were going to be quoting my statement word for word.

No i didnt see the bullet exit i was sitting right next to the shooter. But from what i could see with the elk standing fully broadside across the flats I would assume that it was a perfect lung shot because everything was looking great on my side.

What's ridiculous Is that you assume that I am telling him not to go out elk hunting when I am simply stating my experience with a small caliber rifle with a big game animal...

Yes animals do get away sometimes Due to poor shot placement or whatever the case but it happens a lot more frequently when it is done with a small caliber on a big game animal.

My OPINION!!!!!
 
Ok first off i seen the bullet impact as to what i thought was a perfect lung shot. Sorry didn't know we were going to be quoting my statement word for word.

No i didnt see the bullet exit i was sitting right next to the shooter. But from what i could see with the elk standing fully broadside across the flats I would assume that it was a perfect lung shot because everything was looking great on my side.

What's ridiculous Is that you assume that I am telling him not to go out elk hunting when I am simply stating my experience with a small caliber rifle with a big game animal...

Yes animals do get away sometimes Due to poor shot placement or whatever the case but it happens a lot more frequently when it is done with a small caliber on a big game animal.

My OPINION!!!!!

Not just your opinion. It's a fact.

I could kill an Alaskan coastal brown bear with a .223, but I choose not to try because I know there are much better weapons for that job.
 
Not just your opinion. It's a fact.

I could kill an Alaskan coastal brown bear with a .223, but I choose not to try because I know there are much better weapons for that job.

My point exactly!!! thank you!! I was starting to think i was fighting this one all alone haha
 
For anyone who hasn't yet read it; read "long range elk mistake" by elkaholic posted back in Oct..........Rich
 
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