I exchanged emails with Berger a few weeks ago and he mentioned that the 155 and 168 might be a better hunting bullet because it requires less resistance to completely expand. I didn't know that at the time so I am working up a 175grain load... So far so good. I was able to get sub - 1 MOA groups last week. I am new to reloading but I have some of the drama of getting a load to work on my website.... I need to update my website this week but I have some info on my website...