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What an Obama presidency Means to Us

Let's see, I think it means McCain lost. I think it means the Republicans lost control of their agenda over the past 8 years, and therefore their support in this election. I think it means if the Republicans don't get a face lift, they'll lose again 4 years from now.

The best way to give another win to the Dems in four years - run Sarah again - guaranteed loss. She's a hockey mom on the one hand. Yet she's qualified for the White House on the other? You don't see the dichotomy in that sales pitch? Couldn't sell it this time. Won't sell it next.

You guys over it yet? You ready to get on with your lives? Or are you planning to live in misery and console on another for at least the next four years.

The system worked exactly like it's supposed to. You just didn't get the result you desired. So now what. Throw temper tantrums and claim life's unfair? Get over it.

Hey Knatador, you got ulcers yet? Here, this will help ya... ge( ge( ge(

I really dont think this kind of talk is constructive. I think you have gone over the top. No matter how people really feel about the election this kind of rant over and over will lead to hard feelings that will no doubt spill into other posts. I dont think that is what any of us want for this great web site.
 
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I agree with your thoughts on the hard feelings in the future----this thread as well as others shows who is a friend and who is the enemy!
 
So the question is, do you guys speak up to set things straight when the volume/attacks get loud and they're in your support, or only when you sense some opposition? Is it OK to fan the flames as long as you're in agreement?
 
So the question is, do you guys speak up to set things straight when the volume/attacks get loud and they're in your support, or only when you sense some opposition? Is it OK to fan the flames as long as you're in agreement?

I made my last post when I thought the faning of the flames was getting mean spirited. I am not opposed to a good discussion on both sides of the fence and I speak up when I agree and disagree. I just believe when the faning gets mean spirited it will spill over in future posts and create ill will for a long time to come and that is not good for anyone.
 
Boss Hoss,

I see... so you as individuals decide what the truth is. No limitations as long as you're hearing what's pleasing you. You've pretty much answered my question - if that's good enough for you, then have at it.
 
rtv900,

And you've got my respect on that. I have to agree. My short post was simply to point out the flames don't build unless they're fanned from both sides.
 
Boss Hoss,

I see... so you as individuals decide what the truth is. No limitations as long as you're hearing what's pleasing you. You've pretty much answered my question - if that's good enough for you, then have at it.


In the matter of Osama and the Socialists ------yes that pretty much sums it up! This is going to be an ugly fight with no middle ground unless you want to start calling everyone "comrade"..
 
SNIP----this thread as well as others shows who is a friend and who is the enemy!


Very True!

When it comes to Obama, I was NOT for electing him or the liberal Congress that we now have, but it is important to point out that I do want them to succeed in many, many areas!

I won't act like the Dems.
All the talk for the last year from Congress, badmouthing our troops, talking down the economy. It is one thing to be against Bush, but Murtha, Pelosi, Kerry are scum in my book.
Calling our Marines murderers without a hearing, Rooting for a bad economy, and hoping for the Surge to not work IS anti-American!

Keep America strong, don't mess too much with the economy as it will probably come back sooner than later, SHRINK the Federal Government, and don't nominate any S.C. justices, and they will have support from me.

edge.
 
Here are a few more

11. The restructuring of the Second Amendment as we know it. The coming
administration has consistently emphasized its support for "sportsman"
and hunters and that is how it allayed the fears of many Gun owners early on. The problem with this is the Second Amendment was never about Hunting or sporting purposes in the first place. It is about the right of US citizens to be armed!! What this administration want to do is to is to institute something like what they have in Europe. I have been stationed here in Germany for many years now and the gun laws here are so draconian they would make the likes of sarah brady and crew green with envy. All of their laws pertaining to firearms are for so called sporting purposes. The only way to get a firearm is to go through their version of a hunters safety course (which costs them about 3000 Euros). And the only type of weapons that they are allowed to have are ones that have a legit sporting uses. Which means semi autos are out of the question. I am told that the gun laws in other parts of Europe are even worse. Things like the .50 BMG are almost impossible to acquire.

12. It is also their intent to restructure the Republican/Conservative party as we know it. The pity of this is that the GOP is falling for this hook, line and sinker and they dont even know it. Case in point, running Senator John McCain, a moderate. If you take a look at the so called "right" in Europe it is not even what we in the US would call right it is in reality just less left. Take a look at Chancellor Shroeder vs Chancellor Merkel. Or Chirac vs Sarkozy. And if you take a look at the rest of the world we are really the only country with a true conservative/right wing party. Number 10 re enforces this. As it stands right now about 70 percent of the media is leftist.

13. Surrendering our sovereignty bit by bit to the UN. This will also occur during this administration. it will start with us signing on to the UN world court. I dont know how far they are going to go with this one but if number 12 happens then the sky is the limit.

14. They are also talking about re doing the bill of rights. This was talked about during FDR it thankfully never happened. I have not seen much on this but with a leftist advantage in the House, Senate, and White house their is little to stop it.

Yes, at the risk of being called a conspiracy theorist, I think we are seeing the final stage of what President Reagan called creeping socialism.

Very Respectfully
Rob



This list is a very incomplete inventory of the damaging actions which this fool will take given the chance. For instance, I haven't even touched upon gun confiscation or nationalizing the healthcare system.


1. Wealth re-distribution through the confiscation of white property.

This is accomplished through higher taxes, something Democrats are always after.

IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- Democrats' Windfall Tax â€" On You

CNSNews.com - Democrat Wants Higher Gas Taxes, New Carbon Fees


2. Confiscation of American wealth to re-distribute $1 trillion to solve poverty in Africa (this has already been announced).

Another nutty socialist scheme that will create nothing but more pain for American taxpayers and more handout dependency in Africa.

Obama plan ships dollars overseas â€" by the billions

Obama's global poverty program


3. Confiscation of privately funded and owned 401(K) and IRA accounts the proceeds of which will be used to create retirement accounts for welfare parasites.

This has been around since the Klinton years and was touted by Robert Reich (the midget Secretary of Labor who looked like Dr. Lovelace from The Wild,Wild West) and none other than the Mr. Race Pimp himself Jesse Jackson.

Whose Pension Is It Anyway? Economically Targeted Investments and the Pension Funds

The Clinton Pension Grab

Economically Targeted Investments (ETI's): The Issues


4. Implementation of re-education camps for conservatives and thought criminals.

H.R 1592 sponsored by John Conyers (D) Michigan. Prisons are re-education camps, BTW.

Jailing Thoughts - June 7, 2007 - The New York Sun


5. Nationalization of the petroleum industry.

They've been threatening this for a while.

Republican Leader John Boehner | republicanleader.house.gov


6. Slavery reparations.

This one has been bandied about for a while and is gaining traction under Obama. It's a slippery slope from making official apologies to writing checks.

Democratic convention chief wants reparations for blacks


7. Innoculation of whites with the HIV virus to the level of parity with black infection rates.

I confess that I included this one in jest, but it is not entirely implausible given the lunacy and irrationality of the liberal understanding of the concept of "fairness".


8. Criminalization of the Christian religion.

See #4 above, H.R. 1592 sponsored by Democrat John Conyers of Michigan and endorsed by the majority Democrat leadership.

Christians in bull's-eye in new 'hate crimes' plan


9. Restriction of immigration to only those of Muslim or African origin.

The purpose of increased Muslim immigration is the eventual imposition of Sharia law on all of us. Importing Muslims is the only way that they can accomplish this.

Right Truth: Keith Ellison stirs American Muslims with allahu akbar (Open Trackback Wednesday)

http://www.onebigdog.net/ellison-sends-muslims-veiled-m...ight-for-sharia-law/


10. Censorship of talk radio and conservative publications.

They've been trying to get this accomplished ever since Rush Limbaugh started handing them their nuts on a daily basis, the complete and utter failure of Air America and its liberal message has served only to increase their efforts.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-preps-for-talk-...tion-2007-06-27.html
 
Wheres the change he keeps putting clintons team on his what a joke!! Talking with friends that are still over there they hate the rummers they are hearing,and the cuts in support very dumb
 
Wheres the change he keeps putting clintons team on his what a joke!! Talking with friends that are still over there they hate the rummers they are hearing,and the cuts in support very dumb

Many Americans were fooled by the BHO propaganda machine. I believe they will have a rude awakening when BHO is not able to live-up to his grandiose fiscal promises. However, I am certain BHO and the liberals will diligently march-on to curtail our freedoms of speech and right to bear arms with the Fairness Doctrine revival and more government gun control.
 
Many Americans were fooled by the BHO propaganda machine. I believe they will have a rude awakening when BHO is not able to live-up to his grandiose fiscal promises. However, I am certain BHO and the liberals will diligently march-on to curtail our freedoms of speech and right to bear arms with the Fairness Doctrine revival and more government gun control.

No doubt about it.
 
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