What 300WM bullet for elk?

[russell523]

I would take a look at the new nosler accubond long range in the 190 and 210 grain they are claiming minimum velocity of 1300 for expansion instead of 1800 your 300 should push them around 3000 fps which should put you around 1800 fps at a 1000 yards but you would have to load them and spend some time at the range. The published BC is crazy

 

[Canadian Bushman]

Im another supporter of the 215 berger. It has a very small bearing surface for its length and weight which should help you push it unusually fast. Also the hybrid ogive really does help it shoot more accurately so finding a sweet spot is easier than with some other bergers. To mimic broz, getting it there accurately with the energy is half the battle.

I have no experience with the lr accubond but have heard good things. However be prepared to tune to actual bc because no one has been able to verify their published bc.

 

[Remington5r]

I strongly agree with some of the other guys a 180 grn accubond or a180grn tsx would be a great bullet choice for elk. I have shot elk with both a 165 grn tsx and a 165 grn accubond out of a 300 win mag and a 300 weatherby mag. both times the bullets have had complete pass throughs and the elk did not go far at all. a 180 grn bullet will penetrate a little farther and will get the job done just as well.

 

[clambdin]

I have killed several elk with the 300 Win Mag loaded with both 180 and 200gr Accubonds, all one shot kills...

 

[Barrelnut]

If the 180 Ballistic tip shoots that good in your rifle (muley at 580 yards), and you are looking at 500 yards max on a elk, I would try the 180 AccuBond. It will most likely shoot just as good as the Ballistic tip for you. Might also consider stepping up to the 200 AccuBond.

The Berger 210 VLD can be a challenge to get shooting well. Just look at all of the long range shooters that dropped them like a hot potato when the 215 Hybrid became available. If you do get them to shoot though, you would be amazed at their accuracy. But you could spend a LOT of time and money and find out they do not shoot well in your rifle. Plus with the component shortage, I doubt you will be able to find enough 215 Hybrids to work up a load with by this time next year. The Noslers are usually more available due to their cost.

Inside of 600 yards, you don't need the Berger. Don't change what works for you. Noslers shoot very very well, as you already know.

 

[crittrgittr]

looks like a lot of Berger supporters on here. I think I will try them and the accubonds. Anyone have a favorite recipe with the 215 vld or hybrids? Ive been using h4831sc and would like to stick with it if I can get it to shoot with them.

 

[Broz]

looks like a lot of Berger supporters on here. I think I will try them and the accubonds. Anyone have a favorite recipe with the 215 vld or hybrids? Ive been using h4831sc and would like to stick with it if I can get it to shoot with them.

The 215 is a Hybrid O give not a VLD. We have loaded them for about 8 or 10 300 wins so far and all with H-1000.

When using RP, WW, Graf, Lapua or Norma brass start with 74 gr of H-1000 working up toward 77 most are at max at 77 gr some will go 78 depending on the rifle and powder lot.

If using RWS brass with a smaller case volume start at 72 gr and expect to see max at 75 or 76 gr.

I usually start with the bullets seated at -.040" off the lands. This has worked in several rifles but if not adjust to tune the load from there in or out. At first I use .030" steps to get close and fine tune from there.

These loads, at max psi will be in the 2900 to 3000 fps range with 26 to 28" barrels.

The factory advertised BC off the box has always worked for us out to a mile.

I am sure H4831 will work also but I have no first hand load data for it. I think with the heavier bullets in a 300 win case H-1000 is hard to beat.

Jeff

 

[Canadian Bushman]

Broz,
Have you been able to reach similar velocites with the lower capacity rws brass as you have with the other higher capacity casings that you mentioned?

 

[crittrgittr]

Thanx again guys. That was exactly the help I was looking for. Now I just need to get some of these bullets and powder and hit the range. I will hopefully be able to find them: the local store shelves are still pretty bare and I don't want to pay shipping on the powder.

 

[Broz]

Broz,
Have you been able to reach similar velocites with the lower capacity rws brass as you have with the other higher capacity casings that you mentioned?

There is a fine line with seating depth there. But the short answer is "close"

Jeff

 

[crittrgittr]

my reloading mentor taught me to try to get as close to .010 off the lands as possible. I usually get close to that and have success. Are you saying to keep these higher bc bullets a little further off?

 

[Broz]

my reloading mentor taught me to try to get as close to .010 off the lands as possible. I usually get close to that and have success. Are you saying to keep these higher bc bullets a little further off?

No, You can start at .010 off if you like and then work out . I just have seen a few 300 wins work well with these bullets at -.040" off. They are a hybrid o give so they are not as finicky at different seating depths.

Jeff

 

[Canadian Bushman]

Ive been starting on the lands and working back. That way i always work down in pressure instead of finding a node and then moving into the lands. My current load is .03 off the lands.

 

[Broz]

Ive been starting on the lands and working back. That way i always work down in pressure instead of finding a node and then moving into the lands.

Good plan but I have seen when it is not always true. It could be different when working close to 100% case fill as the bullet is seated deeper into the case.

Jeff