Tragic bear attack in Wyoming

[Pdvdh]

Perfect shot will not be available when the bear is fighting for keeps, and shaking you like a rag doll.
Bear spray is wasted weight and volume. Instead, pack a revolver as backup to a long gun. Do the rest of us a favor and remove threatening bears from the gene pool, so they don't teach their young aggressive behavior toward humans. Amen.

 

[BigGrizz]

Perfect shot will not be available when the bear is fighting for keeps, and shaking you like a rag doll.
Bear spray is wasted weight and volume. Instead, pack a revolver as backup to a long gun. Do the rest of us a favor and remove threatening bears from the gene pool, so they don't teach their young aggressive behavior. Amen.

1) Can't carry a long gun when archery hunting.
2) The statement "Shoot it in the face..." was a euphemism.
3) I'm sure there have been plenty of poor Alaskans that wished they had a can of spray when their revolvers were empty.
4) They're bears. They're threatening by nature.

 

[HARPERC]

Just read sow was 10 years old, fat, with no physical issues.

 

[Pdvdh]

Dear BigGrizz,
1) You could have clarified your bear spray advice was for folks that hunt archery in locations where firearms aren't allowed. The I'd have said find another place to archery hunt. If I couldn't take a firearm during archery season where I hunt, I wouldn't hunt archery season. The bear where I live and hunt don't respect archery season hunters more so than rifle season hunters.
2) I don't do euphemisms
3) That's just one of your problems. Too sure of yourself. The Alaskans I know pack firearms, so I don't know any of the poor souls you're so sure wished for bear spray after the fact.
4) I've interacted with lots of bears that were not threatening. More non-threatening than threatening. Most run like they're more afraid of me than I am of them. I'd have to guess you irritate them. I've got a good idea why. They feel threatened because you're ranker than they are themselves.

After you get the right flavor of bear spray figured out, let the rest of us know? Spare the euphemism... You're a tough one to follow even without the extraneous nonsense.

 

[Pdvdh]

Just read sow was 10 years old, fat, with no physical issues.

Just a grizzly bear making a living. One with no fear, or respect, of hunters or any other humans.

 

[WildRose]

The 21 foot rule is for a man with a knife, a bear is much faster

The bear has 10 knives and a mouth like a croc with twice the bite force.

 

[WildRose]

Just a grizzly bear making a living. One with no fear, or respect, of hunters or any other humans.

Exactly, we're nothing but another source of protein to them. There's no more malice in a bear killing a human than in us taking game, it's just nature at work.

 

[WildRose]

Perfect shot will not be available when the bear is fighting for keeps, and shaking you like a rag doll.
Bear spray is wasted weight and volume. Instead, pack a revolver as backup to a long gun. Do the rest of us a favor and remove threatening bears from the gene pool, so they don't teach their young aggressive behavior. Amen.

stick it in their mouth or under the bottom jaw and shoot up. No aiming necessary.

For most people in a situation like that everything happens in slow motion anyhow and you won't feel much besides pressure until it's over so pain really isn't a problem.

Like any emergency if you want to live keep a clear head and act rationally.

 

[Bigeclipse]

stick it in their mouth or under the bottom jaw and shoot up. No aiming necessary.

For most people in a situation like that everything happens in slow motion anyhow and you won't feel much besides pressure until it's over so pain really isn't a problem.

Like any emergency if you want to live keep a clear head and act rationally.

statement above in bold....tell that to Timothy Treadwell. He was killed by a bear. There is audio of him being slowly eaten while he was screaming. The audio lasted 6 minutes or so and then it just cuts out so who knows how long it actually took for him to die and he sure was in crazy pain. You did say "most" people so maybe for most they truly don't feel pain but I definitely do not care to find out.

 

[gregsjt]

That audio is hands down the worst thing I've ever listened to.

 

[Pdvdh]

I remember watching the portion of the movie on Treadwell's life, where the movie director and a Treadwell friend listened to that audio tape. Their visual expression of poignant anguish and grief was striking, as if Satan had just claimed their souls. I want no part of THAT!

 

[BigGrizz]

That audio is hands down the worst thing I've ever listened to.

It is an awful thing to listen to. I've read debate about it's legitimacy. There is an article written by a former Yellowstone guide that provides some exposition on the events that took place. Quite an interesting read, and I feel like it supplements the Grizzly Man film well.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

Got home last night from 3 days in the Mission Mountain Wilderness hunting high country muleys. The griz population in this wilderness area is high. I said earlier in this thread that these bears are diff than the park bears. They have much less human interaction and still carry a health respect for humans. We saw a griz on Fri. He was working his way across flat that we were looking down on toward us. He got to within 150y and smelled us on the switching winds and promptly exited stage left. It was comforting to see this happen. The good news is most bears want nothing to do with us.

Talked with some locals on Sat night and with the dry summer they are having high volumeof griz incidents in in residential songs this year. The bears living in low country best humans are much more bold.

Steve

 

[WildRose]

statement above in bold....tell that to Timothy Treadwell. He was killed by a bear. There is audio of him being slowly eaten while he was screaming. The audio lasted 6 minutes or so and then it just cuts out so who knows how long it actually took for him to die and he sure was in crazy pain. You did say "most" people so maybe for most they truly don't feel pain but I definitely do not care to find out.

The screaming is usually out of panic and realization of what is going on rather than pain. Shock and the hormone cascade generally keep us from feeling the pain until the emergency is over.

That bear was eating him alive too, not just killing him. That six minutes had to be pure hell.