Bah Humbug! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif I just got an email from Leupold saying they weren't going to offer M2 knob conversions this year at all. I guess I'll have Premier put on an M1 elevation knob when they do the Gen II. I really wanted the shorter one...but I guess I'll live. I don't have a horseback hunt scheduled for another two years...maybe they'll be available by then.