Success on a bull in Utah....

[dmj]

Wow. That is one nice bull. Great shot. Congratulations. I assume you're hooked for life now.

 

[WildRose]

I don't know exactly....went in at the base of the neck and we saw about a quarter size exit hole on the other side with lots of shock to the neck as we caped him. We didn't cut open the neck to get to his spine to see how the bullet performed once it hit bone.

But he dropped like someone chopped his legs out from under him so I'll take it. I'm taking this gun and a 6.5 creedmoor to Kansas in a little over a month...not sure which I will use but I may have an idea of how they do after Kansas.

Entrance is in the red circle...



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You don't really even need to see it to know the effect. At that velocity even if you only had a small percentage of retained bullet weight the vertebrae turn into a ball of fragments.

What you most likely didn't do was hit it near center or you'd have probably a handball sized exit or larger.

Usually you can just squeeze both sides even without an exit and it will feel similar to crushed gravel in a sock.

Even with mono's and round ball a solid hit to the spine usually looks like it's been hit with a grenade.

Again, super nice bull, that would be a trophy of a lifetime for a guy like me and certainly fantastic shooting. Congrats

 

[Greyfox]

Great bull!!! Congratulations.

 

[Buckfever34]

I enjoyed your write-up. Congrats and good shooting!

 

[Bcwn]

Man thats an awesome bull for sure! congratulations you earned every bit of that from start to finish. I've been a bow hunter since childhood never hunted with a rifle until 3 years ago when I had a doe that skunked me in one of my favorite tree stands for 2 seasons, I'm not talking busted me I'm talking zero deer in the freezer. So I bought a rifle and killed her the very next year from a measly 80 yards. This year I decided to spend some cash and bought one of the new sniper rifles we saw at the USSOCOM sniper completion here at work, savage/drake associates Evo 110 308 win, what a shooter today we shot steel at 400 meters I'm hooked for sure. As a young ignorant man I turned my nose at rifle hunters thinking my field craft was beyond question. Well Ive been humbled to say the least. Now I really regret turning down all my chances to go to SOTIC/SFSC. Any ways awesome job on the elk, I've planned a trip to drag my camper to Cody Wy. for a pronghorn hunt next season hopefully my LR shooting skills are ready.
Brad

 

[gillettehunter]

That is a great bull. One to be proud of. Congrats
Bruce

 

[brentc]

Great bull. Congrats! I'm interested to hear what the error was with your drops.

 

[Deleted member 25294]

That's a stud of a bull congrats man!
Love those 7mms

 

[The Oregonian]

Great bull. Congrats! I'm interested to hear what the error was with your drops.

What I think happened was that my sight in rounds at the range in Utah were not 2" high, but maybe an inch. I just measured them using the subtensions in the reticle. If I plug in the environmentals from a weather app and use 1" I get just about dead on. And I think I had good hits on the 668, but the steel was part white paint, part steel from bullets hits, and part rust - it was just impossible to tell where they hit.

If I know the BC, the velocity, etc, the rest should be science. And the BR2 should take environmentals into account and get pretty dang close - that is my experience so far. If that is the case, everything should be on, like it was before i left, when I go back to the range. Time will tell, however.

 

[WildRose]

What I think happened was that my sight in rounds at the range in Utah were not 2" high, but maybe an inch. I just measured them using the subtensions in the reticle. If I plug in the environmentals from a weather app and use 1" I get just about dead on. And I think I had good hits on the 668, but the steel was part white paint, part steel from bullets hits, and part rust - it was just impossible to tell where they hit.

If I know the BC, the velocity, etc, the rest should be science. And the BR2 should take environmentals into account and get pretty dang close - that is my experience so far. If that is the case, everything should be on, like it was before i left, when I go back to the range. Time will tell, however.

Great job all the way around. Very good write up as well.

 

[Longranger7mm]

Just got back from Utah on my first bull elk hunt. I took this guy at 581 yds (more on that) with a 28 Nosler and 195 Bergers...aimed high shoulder, was a few inches right, and hit him in the spine at the base of the neck and he went down like a rock, only moving his head slowly side to side for a couple of minutes. You can barely make out the entrance hole in the first pic but it is hard without knowing where it is.

My drops were validated here in Tennessee at the range against my BR2 out to 750 yds. The range is at about 700 feet altitude...the lodge was about 7,000. Checked zero at 200 when when i got there and it was 1 MOA high, but not surprising given the lighter air. Gave me confidence bc the two shots were in the same hole. Changed windage a bit and got it centered up and moved on.

He wanted me to shoot off sticks and backpack to get a feel for how good of a shot I was so he could take that into account when we strategized our move when we saw a bull we wanted. I was fine off sticks and backpack.

The public range at the base of the mountain had deer shaped steel, and we went to the 568 yard target to see how things looked. I ranged with a BR2 and dialed. Was several inches low so I adjusted up an MOA on the scope. Hit the kill shot twice and Went to 668...it seemed several inches low but hard to tell bc the steel wasn't painted and had rust, so guide had a tough time seeing where they hit. I went up a bit on MOA and we still couldn't tell. I brought my LabRadar so did a 1 shot velocity read and it was 1 FPS off my velocity at home and what was in the BR2. Actual 2979 vs 2980 avg at home.

We Didn't want to blow more ammo chasing something...I took 1 more at the 568 to double check...i adjusted the BR2 to give me that reading figuring if it was on I was matched up i was good to 568. I had to adjust the BR2 down 100 FPS to get my solution to match the actual dial, which was large enough to make me think something was wonky. So right about 568 was my definite limit for a confident shot.

The guide scouted the prior morning...there was a really big bull feeding in a meadow at very first light, then he made his way up the hill as day was breaking. We tried to get into the canyon in the afternoon but were busted by a cow. We tried to get me set up for a shot as the herd headed out but I couldn't get crosshairs on him in time as he scooted across a meadow up in the bowl. This canyon was really a tough spot to get in without being noticed.

We saw a few other bulls on other mtns that afternoon, but we both wanted that big bull and if he did what he did he day before we had a good shot of killing him. We glassed at first light from the road and saw a good bull a few thousand yds away up on the mountain. So we got out and started walking. We slowly approached and wanted to get to 568 yds and drop him. We felt any closer and they would get nervous. They were maybe 500 feet above us so they were paying attention to us but not spooked.

We got to 571 and I dropped my pack and got the rear sandbag and got settled to range him with the BR2, dial, etc. I dialed, got parallax set, double checked everything, and started to try to line up on him. The guide could now tell it wasn't the same bull from yesterday but said he was the other big bull he had seen in this canyon about a week ago and that he was a definite shooter. I found him in the scope and he was perfectly broadside facing right. I only looked at his antlers long enough to make sure I was on the right animal. I asked the guide if he was ready and when he said yes, I got solid and fired.

I was aiming high shoulder and was a few inches right...got him in the spine at the base of the neck and he dropped like a hammer.

I loved everything about the hunt...in an ideal world I would have gotten to admire him for a little bit before shooting, but with everything the way we wanted it I fired quickly but without rushing it.

Sorry for the long post but I am sitting in bed trying to sleep after a 15 hour / 1100 mile driving day yesterday and a 3 am arrival at home, so I have nothing else to do this morning.

Got plenty of pics...special thanks to Jordan Christensen at The Draw (here) for helping me line up the hunt and figure out a strategy for how/where to get a tag.


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First let me say "That's a great bull" and second let me say "That's a great bull" CONGRATULATIONS on a fine hunt.

 

[BoatTail]

I know you used to draw service and an Outfitter, but how many preference points did it take to get the tag for this unit?

I've been putting in for 12 years now for a unit down in southern Utah to get a chance at a bull like this one. Nice bull!

 

[The Oregonian]

I know you used to draw service and an Outfitter, but how many preference points did it take to get the tag for this unit?

I've been putting in for 12 years now for a unit down in southern Utah to get a chance at a bull like this one. Nice bull!

The outfitter had a LOP tag. It wasn't cheap but I don't have hardly any points anywhere so it was either wait 20 years for a very good unit or suck it up.

 

[Lukeandcod]

Great looking bull and nice shooting!