Aww Hell No!You do realize that Canadians are part of North America and are therefore Americans?
Aww Hell No!You do realize that Canadians are part of North America and are therefore Americans?
I looked on their website. Did not notice any rangefinders from vortex with ABThey make rangefinders with and without AB
Yes I'm aware of that. I was under the impression that old rooster was prefacing the fact the vortex made rangefinders "with and without AB" like he stated.It's the range finder binoculars that have the AB
It is pretty crazy, but they do add on board weather stations minus wind for your environmental inputs. Makes it push and play to get a drop calculations all in one device. I have the Zeiss and the wife runs the vortex.Man this is crazy, how does a $15-$30 application add $1000 to a $500 rangefinder. Am I missing something? Download ballistic app on your phone for almost nothing but as soon as it's uploaded to ANY other electronic device it's all of a sudden outrageously priced.
Sorry for the hijacking OP. I'm done hahaha
Seems pointless to spend all that money if you're gonna leave any variable out. So you have to buy a Rangefinding 2-3k bino system with AB, then you have to buy a $750 kestrel that also has AB. So they can all talk to each other correct? Cuz a guy could use a cheap wind meter but then you'd have to manually enter the wind dopes into the calculator with just the binos or rangefinders with AB....which I'm not sure you can....meanwhile the animal is moving over the horizon...It is pretty crazy, but they do add on board weather stations minus wind for your environmental inputs. Makes it push and play to get a drop calculations all in one device. I have the Zeiss and the wife runs the vortex.
Only downfall is the wind input in my option, the vortex allows for it on the binos but the leicas, swaros and Zeiss don't. You still need an external wind meter unless you're guessing.
With the vortex they have a few different wind input modes. I'm not an expert since I don't mess with them much because they are the wife's but you just need wind speed with a basic one and you could use the buttons on the binos to input wind pretty fast. I believe you could also Bluetooth a wind meter to them also but I'm not positive how that works, so don't quote meSeems pointless to spend all that money if you're gonna leave any variable out. So you have to buy a Rangefinding 2-3k bino system with AB, then you have to buy a $750 kestrel that also has AB. So they can all talk to each other correct? Cuz a guy could use a cheap wind meter but then you'd have to manually enter the wind dopes into the calculator with just the binos or rangefinders with AB....which I'm not sure you can....meanwhile the animal is moving over the horizon...
Not crazy at all. You're not paying $500-1000 for adding the $15 app to your rangefinder. You're paying for the electronics inside the rangefinder to feed the app information to do its calculations. First, you need a more powerful circuit board with a computer and storage than what is required to just laser rangefind. This computer needs to be developed and miniaturized (which is expensive), tested, ruggedized, aligned by trained factory workers, procedures developed for workers to install properly, etc. Second, sensors need to be added to the range finder to detect the environment like elevation, geo location for coriolis, magnetic heading, tilt angle, temperature, etc. Your $2000 phone already has these sensors built in and is a powerful computer with lots of storage so you don't need to pay for them to be added.Man this is crazy, how does a $15-$30 application add $1000 to a $500 rangefinder. Am I missing something? Download ballistic app on your phone for almost nothing but as soon as it's uploaded to ANY other electronic device it's all of a sudden outrageously priced.
Sorry for the hijacking OP. I'm done hahaha
Not crazy at all. You're not paying $500-1000 for adding the $15 app to your rangefinder. You're paying for the electronics inside the rangefinder to feed the app information to do its calculations. First, you need a more powerful circuit board with a computer and storage than what is required to just laser rangefind. This computer needs to be developed and miniaturized (which is expensive), tested, ruggedized, aligned by trained factory workers, procedures developed for workers to install properly, etc. Second, sensors need to be added to the range finder to detect the environment like elevation, geo location for coriolis, magnetic heading, tilt angle, temperature, etc. Your $2000 phone already has these sensors built in and is a powerful computer with lots of storage so you don't need to pay for them to be added.