I am trying to find a McMillan or Manners Stock for my barreled Stiller Predator long action. I have a 3b bartlein chambered in 300 win. I am having a hard time finding a stock without custom ordering and having long wait. I am wanting to keep stock weight around 2 lbs. Some of the issues with stocks McMillan has on had their inletted for rem varmint/sender. I am seeking advice if I drop the 3b bartlein in a stock inletted for rem varmint will it look and perform good??? I do like the Mcmillan hunter or rem hunter but weight is an issue and with McMillan hunter I am on edge for barrel space in that stock.
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Don A Parsons
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I'm doing a PRS Hunter Bush Hog rifle build.
The selling feature for me on this stock is the full length reinforcement shaft and weigth,,, plus if your from the USA, the stock will be much less in cost because of your high dollar. The guy that builds them has quite a story how he got into this.
My rifle is a Remmy Long Range with heavy barrel, so I'm soon to find out if I can fit it into his Ver-Tech stock.
Not sure what his turn around is, give him a call as he can get you up to speed on his custom builds.
At least the weight works for my build,,, lots of folks up here in Western Canada use his stocks as they are proven tack drivers.
Not to soft nor to brittle,,, carbon fiber is an art, and he has it down pat when the material first came out,,, about 25 years of it under his belt.
Western Canada pal Don
http://wildcatcomposites.com/productinfo.html
The selling feature for me on this stock is the full length reinforcement shaft and weigth,,, plus if your from the USA, the stock will be much less in cost because of your high dollar. The guy that builds them has quite a story how he got into this.
My rifle is a Remmy Long Range with heavy barrel, so I'm soon to find out if I can fit it into his Ver-Tech stock.
Not sure what his turn around is, give him a call as he can get you up to speed on his custom builds.
At least the weight works for my build,,, lots of folks up here in Western Canada use his stocks as they are proven tack drivers.
Not to soft nor to brittle,,, carbon fiber is an art, and he has it down pat when the material first came out,,, about 25 years of it under his belt.
Western Canada pal Don
http://wildcatcomposites.com/productinfo.html
midnightmalloy
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You can also look at the iota kremlin stock. Around $500 and has a short 6-8 week lead time. I have one and it's pretty nice. Not as nice as a high end mcmillan or manners but much less in cost and wait time. Mine shoots pretty good but mine was also professionally bedded by Pierce engineering could also have a lot to do with how my rifle shoots 1/3 MOA.
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I have a Stiller Predator with a #3 contour Bartlein mounted in a McMillan Hunter with edge fill. Weighs 26 oz. Fits perfect, but I think that you are right. The 3b would be pushing the barrel channel on this stock. It could be done, but the edges around the fore end would be thin.
Don A Parsons
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Yes, attention to forend flex,,, this can be corrected on the preping. My Gun Smith does the zero stress bedding, less chances of the action being torque down that has been known in "some cases" to cause un-wanrented twisting on some of the lighter actions. More of the 50/50 thing that is.
Yes,,, all Wildcat stocks come semi prepped, so either you or a gun Smith is needed to do the final fit.
The Var Tech stocks come factory with the full length aluminum shank embedded into the stock when it's molded, that way it is ad-heared solid in the process.
This is what sold me on them, pretty sure I'm going this route.
Western Canada Don
Yes,,, all Wildcat stocks come semi prepped, so either you or a gun Smith is needed to do the final fit.
The Var Tech stocks come factory with the full length aluminum shank embedded into the stock when it's molded, that way it is ad-heared solid in the process.
This is what sold me on them, pretty sure I'm going this route.
Western Canada Don
McMillan has several "Inlet Ready" stocks available in their Online Store. You can specify what action and barrel inlet you want, and they will ship in around 4 weeks. I've purchased two Game Wardens this way. Couldn't be happier with the stocks. My most recent is a Carbon Fiber Game Warden with R700 inlet. It weighs 26.2 oz and the fit is perfect.
Solby
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I have a .300 WM with a Stiller TAC300 in McMillan HTG and I really like it. Standard fill and the stock is quite light. Barrel is a Remington Varmint/Sendaro contour.
Lpart
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I just purchased an Iota Kremlin with for a Remmy 700. They try to keep several on the shelf. Mine shipped next day. Not sure if the Stillar is a 400 clone. Very happy with the stock.
Don A Parsons
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I forgot to mention that the Var Tech comes factory in SA, but he adds extra fill so they can be turned into long action.
Each stock takes about 100 hours to make,,, lots of mould preping time and the processes of getting the carbon & fiber to ad-hear.
The aluminum shank needs to be suspended by the fiber only,,, this my friends is some tricky.
Another plus to the Var Tech is that it is also F Class match capable and PRS.
The hand grip is curved straight up and down and not slanted like the Remington Long Range Stocks or the Macmillan Hunter Edge.
All to do with what each person likes.
I'm one of those dudes that likes a un-bent wrist.
I find my hand is more relaxed as I can lay my arm on the rear bag for match and the pistol grip helps me in gun slinging the fast PRS and critter harvests.
Again, it's all about personal fit.
These Var Tech stocks are not cheap.
About $600+ Cnd funds,,, much less in the US green back.
So I'll have 2 F Class rifles by spring, 1 at 18.5 lbs and the other at 7 lbs.
The lighter one will substitute as a game getter.
And yes,,, the Var is made for heavy barrels.
Western Canada Don
Each stock takes about 100 hours to make,,, lots of mould preping time and the processes of getting the carbon & fiber to ad-hear.
The aluminum shank needs to be suspended by the fiber only,,, this my friends is some tricky.
Another plus to the Var Tech is that it is also F Class match capable and PRS.
The hand grip is curved straight up and down and not slanted like the Remington Long Range Stocks or the Macmillan Hunter Edge.
All to do with what each person likes.
I'm one of those dudes that likes a un-bent wrist.
I find my hand is more relaxed as I can lay my arm on the rear bag for match and the pistol grip helps me in gun slinging the fast PRS and critter harvests.
Again, it's all about personal fit.
These Var Tech stocks are not cheap.
About $600+ Cnd funds,,, much less in the US green back.
So I'll have 2 F Class rifles by spring, 1 at 18.5 lbs and the other at 7 lbs.
The lighter one will substitute as a game getter.
And yes,,, the Var is made for heavy barrels.
Western Canada Don
I've got an Accurate Ordinance build 223 with a Brux #5 in an EH-1 minichassis with a Rem varmint barrel channel and the barrel fits well.
I also have a semi custom 700 in 243 with a Brux 4 contour in an EH2 minichassis with Rem varmint barrel channel and there's a slight gap but it's not hideous.
I'd say the Bartlein 3b would be fine in a Rem varmint barrel channel.
I also have a semi custom 700 in 243 with a Brux 4 contour in an EH2 minichassis with Rem varmint barrel channel and there's a slight gap but it's not hideous.
I'd say the Bartlein 3b would be fine in a Rem varmint barrel channel.
lancetkenyon
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Find a Manners EH-2. I got lucky and found one at www.stockysstocks.com.
I have a R700 LA BDL in 7RM built by Phoenix Custom Rifles
Bartlein #3 fluted 1:8.5" @ 26" plus APA Micro Bast brake
Manners EH-2 @ 26oz
Timney CE
S&B PMII 3-20x50
Finishes @ 9lbs 11oz scoped.
And shoots amazingly. 2.75" 5 shot group @ 806 yards.
Just killed my bull with it @ 662 yards, one and done. 180 Berger Hybrid @ 2996mv
I have a R700 LA BDL in 7RM built by Phoenix Custom Rifles
Bartlein #3 fluted 1:8.5" @ 26" plus APA Micro Bast brake
Manners EH-2 @ 26oz
Timney CE
S&B PMII 3-20x50
Finishes @ 9lbs 11oz scoped.
And shoots amazingly. 2.75" 5 shot group @ 806 yards.
Just killed my bull with it @ 662 yards, one and done. 180 Berger Hybrid @ 2996mv
Western Don. I don't know if I got a bad Wildcat or not, but I'll never buy another one. Inletting was terrible. BM is crooked as well as the barrel channel. Rear pillar collapsed and I have bedded it 3 times now because it always seems to torque the action. Will shoot it tomorrow and if it doesn't shoot I will throw it away. They are light but that's where the positives end. As I said maybe I got a bad one. I could not even tell you how many hours I got in sanding, prep, body filler etc. Way to much work for the cost of them.
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If ur main concern is too much room you could always carefully wrap the barrel in tape then bed the forestock, remove tape, you have a close fit free floated stock. But the compound will add weight to it.
