stxhunter,
I will get with Tim on his loads today at work. As for the 25, it seems to be good for loads around the mid sized cases, but once you get into the UM size ones in our conditions down here, it don't take a lot of change to get the stuff to start jumping around.
Tim had an excellent load worked up with it and some 180's, and we were shooting it one morning with temps in the mid 70's. That afternoon, I took his rifle over to work on some hogs in one of their pastures, and bout locked the bolt up, with only about a 20 degree change. The case was noticably ruined.