Schmitt & Bender feedback

[dfanonymous]

Ha Ha I love getting the fan boys all worked up!
I'm sure they are top tier optics. Can I afford one yes will I ever own one probably not they are a bit to heavy for my hunting style.So... I will probably never own one of the "very best"
But then again I will probably never own a Ford truck which is the "Very Best" or A corvette the "very best" sports car ever!
I'm sure in this life most of what I own won't be the very "best" according to some people.

It's not about being worked up as it is about half truths. Like the ford. Ford trucks are best at what? Everyone knows the Tacoma is the king of the off road. The Toyota Tacoma off roads so hard you can put that thing into crawl mode and it off roads for you.
But you're going to hall a huge heavy *** trailer then yeah maybe the ford 350 might be the way to go.
I don't hall anything and I spend my time up on hill sides or on the road so the Tacoma works good for me. My dad never got anything but ford trucks after the 80s.
The logic applied to weapon application as well. I can't fault the mountain pack hunter guys who love their 5.5 lb rifles trying to make connivence for themselves

 

[Bravo 4]

Ha Ha I love getting the fan boys all worked up!

When the facts work against you start flinging poo...spoken like a true democrat!
I do concur, cannot afford one.

 

[Harvey Durham]

I have had most of the mid/top tier glass.
To me, the S&B PMII line is FAR superior in glass quality to any Japanese glass I have shot behind/owned. And other Euro glass too. Razor Gen 2, Razor Gen 1, March, SWFA HD, Bushnell Elite, Sig, Sightron, Steiner TX, Razor AMG (USA), NF ATACR F1 (although these are very very good), Kahles, Cronos BTR, Leupold Mark 4/VX-5HD/VX6HD.

I own three S&Bs. 5-25×56 DT, 3-20×50 MTC/LT, 3-20×50 US. No yellow tint I have noticed. I have sold all of my Japanese glass (except my March on a lightweight hunting rifle) for S&B PMII, Premier, or Tangent Theta upgrades.

Does everyone NEED a (or multiple) $2500-4000 scope? Ha! Absolutely not! But shooting is my vice. Hunting is my passion. That is why my personal rifles are topped with the best. Because when that shot on a game animal of a lifetime in the worst possible conditions presents itself, I want the best chance I have of making that shot count. And being able to see them is an important part of that.

What do you feel is the best hunting scope you've used? I'm sure you've used the atrac NFS? What about Kahales 5x25? IOR?

 

[Harvey Durham]

What do you feel is the best hunting scope you've used? I'm sure you've used the atrac NFS? What about Kahles? IOR? I know some really died in the wood NFS hunters that hands down say the 5x25 Kahles is a better scope than the NFS! I don't have a clue, I have several NFS scopes and have owned at least a dozen and they've never failed me. I've owned several IOR scopes as well, their super good scopes. I've just never owned a Kahles but I'm seriously considering buying one. Advice please??

Harvey

 

[gusd]

When the facts work against you start flinging poo...spoken like a true democrat!
I do concur, cannot afford one.

If you were better at reading and could comprehend what you are reading. By that I mean understand what I wrote,and what others have written.
Then you would know that there were no facts proving anything in this whole thread. Also I don't know with whom you were concurring. But if you were insinuating that I cannot afford a S&B. You should go re-read my post that clearly states that I can afford one.
As for the statement "spoken like a true Democrat!"
Political stance has nothing to do with anything discussed or any statements made.
Don't worry no offense taken I will just chalk it up to you being an over zealous supporter.

 

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[dfanonymous]

Sounds like a democrat.
Here comes the butt hurt.

There should be a butt hurt thread on here too for those people.

 

[FEENIX]

 

[Deleted member 48126]

Well it was a good thread. We made it 13 pages keeping it civil.

 

[FEENIX]

Well it was a good thread. We made it 13 pages keeping it civil.

Agreed!

 

[gpo1956]

To keep inserting "supporters" into this thread is just silly and juvenile. Obviously you're interested in inciting emotions, thus the "spoken lie a true democrat". Grow up.

 

[FEENIX]

To keep inserting "supporters" into this thread is just silly and juvenile. Obviously you're interested in inciting emotions, thus the "spoken lie a true democrat". Grow up.

I might have to borrow your above statement the next time someone make reference to "supporters".

 

[dfanonymous]

Well he openly admitted to trying to troll. So I don't feel bad when the troll gets trolled.

 

[lancetkenyon]

You can't use the "PRS most used", because almost every top 100 shooter is sponsored to run a certain scope. I would run almost any top tiered scope I was GIVEN.

As for a 5-25×50 (56) FFP illuminated top tier scopes, are there ANY that are under 24oz?

What do you feel is the best hunting scope you've used? I'm sure you've used the atrac NFS? What about Kahales 5x25? IOR?

"The best hunting scopes", in my opinion:
Tangent Theta TT315M
S&B PMII 3-20×50US
S&B PMII 5-20×50US
Kahles K318i 3.5-18×50
Hensoldt ZF 4-16×50
NF ATACR 4-16×42 (or the new 50) F1
March F 3-24×52

Most of these are short, fairly light, and excellent quality.
I think for any realistic LR hunting scope, even 15x is plenty for any distance you would ever hunt big game at. I have used 17x out to 1365 yards on coyotes. Used 15x at a 1500+ on 12" steel.