Hey thanks a bunch MarkA, yes 180 nosler ballistic tip & accubond I have never seen this updated chart, I had been deriving my data from rl 25 data from the old Alliant chart that had no data for the 300 rum with rl 26 then started well under 10 % of it and worked up I was getting 3276 fps at 89.5 gr rl 26 and had been seeming easy on brass until now, I had shot quite a few rounds at that weight earlier this year with good accuracy the 89 and 89.5 went almost same hole at 350 yards I will drop a grain or two and chrony again I have notes that say 88.5 was accurate in my gun this is kind of sketchy with all the talk of rl26 being slower than rl 25 and the old chart with rl 25 shows 94 grain as max for a 180 sp bullet I have burned alot of rl 25 in the former 7 rum and some in it now rebareled to 300 rum , I was convinced that rl26 was faster but not by this margin kind of getting down on case fill more than I like but I am out of time to change powder type now also there must be something different about early summer and early fall air or something else IDk because I shot quite a bit at that charge early mid summer about same temps and never seen anything on casehead and the only inkling of bolt lift was at 92 grains I really dont mind losing the velocity just looking to get the accuracy back btw even now when I google Alliant all I get is the old data so Thanks a ton for the link