Replacing a Premiere Reticles Light Tactical

[randycw]

I did the "buy once, cry once" several years back and purchased a Premier Reticles scope (a Light Tactical model) that was at the extreme end of my budget. It was a fantastic scope, but last hunting season my sling gave way when I jumped across some rocks and the rifle and scope took a nasty tumble. The scope is not tracking any longer and won't hold zero consistently (holds for some 5-20 shots then shifts for a few then is back to zero). Since the company went out of business, I am out of luck for repairs -- turns out I'll be crying more than once.

For a interim fix I have put a Meopta Optika6 on the rifle. The rifle's accuracy and consistency were not affected by the fall. The optic is a significant step back from the PR. So I am looking for a replacement option.

Criteria:
Similar optical performance to the PR
MIL
FFP
At least 3-15x
Budget max is $2,700

Use:
Hunting in WY -- antelope and deer to 1,500, elk to 900 yrds.
Targets to 2,000 yrds. (admittedly the 15x PR at 1,500+ yards was a bit small, but was still manageable)

 

[orkan]

We can get you setup with a Tangent Theta 315M. Much better scope than what you had. Quite a ways outside of your budget however.

 

[randycw]

We can get you setup with a Tangent Theta 315M. Much better scope than what you had. Quite a ways outside of your budget however.

I have read up on the Tangent Theta scopes, especially as PR was going under. They certainly are an upgrade, but I think around $1,500 beyond my budget too.

 

[orkan]

Have you contacted armament about a possible repair?

 

[randycw]

Have you contacted armament about a possible repair?

I did in November of 2021. They said they have no parts available for repairs on that scope line; limited parts for the Tactical line. They sent me new scope covers out of sympathy for my predicament. They were very friendly over the phone, just unable to offer service -- I certainly understand their position, but do wish I was in a better position for repair.

 

[Hand Skills]

I dunno. That's a tough one...

Minox ZP5 is a similar optical design to the Premier, but ZP5 is CHUNKY and 2lbs... And discontinued...

Leupold MK5, maybe, but illum. is overpriced.

Vortex razor LHT 4.4-22 ...is not in the same league

Bushnell LRHS2 if you can live with 4.5x on the bottom end AND a much narrower FOV than you were used to...

Might have to look at a March 3-24

S&B Ultrashort 3-20 if you luck out and find one used?

Good luck in your quest! Let us know what you decide on.

 

[Kimber7man]

I did the "buy once, cry once" several years back and purchased a Premier Reticles scope (a Light Tactical model) that was at the extreme end of my budget. It was a fantastic scope, but last hunting season my sling gave way when I jumped across some rocks and the rifle and scope took a nasty tumble. The scope is not tracking any longer and won't hold zero consistently (holds for some 5-20 shots then shifts for a few then is back to zero). Since the company went out of business, I am out of luck for repairs -- turns out I'll be crying more than once.

For a interim fix I have put a Meopta Optika6 on the rifle. The rifle's accuracy and consistency were not affected by the fall. The optic is a significant step back from the PR. So I am looking for a replacement option.

Criteria:
Similar optical performance to the PR
MIL
FFP
At least 3-15x
Budget max is $2,700

Use:
Hunting in WY -- antelope and deer to 1,500, elk to 900 yrds.
Targets to 2,000 yrds. (admittedly the 15x PR at 1,500+ yards was a bit small, but was still manageable)

I've got a couple spare light tacticals and might be able to help you out - what reticle and dials did yours have?

 

[Outlaw6.0]

That's pretty stand up @Kimber7man .

OP, The only optic I can think of off hand that will meet your criteria & budget would be the Burris XTR PRO.

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[KsKevin]

A bit over your budget but you may consider ZCO 4-20x50. Heavy though at 35oz. I have the 5-27… awesome equipment.

 

[randycw]

I've got a couple spare light tacticals and might be able to help you out - what reticle and dials did yours have?

The reticle was their basic non-illum mrad (took a picture of the box description). I am not sure on the dials as I don't recall there being options, so I took a picture of those too.

Thank you!

 

[randycw]

That's pretty stand up @Kimber7man .

OP, The only optic I can think of off hand that will meet your criteria & budget would be the Burris XTR PRO.

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Thank you for the tip. I have been poking around on this one: specs look good and the price is well within budget. I don't find much in the way of reviews. I'd imagine the glass is at least as good as the PR I have -- none in my town to have a look through, although I'm not that far from Greeley. I wonder if I could just stop at their facility and have a look and handle of one?

Or maybe I just go with the Meopta for this season and save up for the "alpha" glass from ZCO or TT?!?

 

[Outlaw6.0]

Here you go.

Burris XTR Pro 🇺🇸

Burris is upping their game. Again. An American company, using American workers, making American products. If that doesnt tickle ur fancy you probably tested positive for commi and you should quarantine 🤣🤣🤣 The XTR Pro will again be made in Greeley, Colorado. Im very excited about this optic...

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On a side note, i'd be very surprised if the folks in Greeley didn't let you finger one for a while.




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[Euler]

Or maybe I just go with the Meopta for this season and save up for the "alpha" glass from ZCO or TT?!?

I think this is the right move. Go with a lesser scope now to afford an alpha option next year.

I don't regret any of the ZCO or Tangent scopes. Anytime I buy a mid-tier option I end up regretting it and wishing I just would've bought the better scope.

 

[Kimber7man]

The reticle was their basic non-illum mrad (took a picture of the box description). I am not sure on the dials as I don't recall there being options, so I took a picture of those too.

Thank you!

Looks like a gen 2 mildot with mil turrets. I have one just like it with gen2 mildot but with MOA turrets. If that might work for you shoot me a PM.