I'll check those out. Sawyers brand for the bugs, it's like gold for ticks, ants, and just about anything. Plenty of snakes but no rattlers where I hunt. My Ecall is a western river but hoping to upgrade to FoxPro soon. I also inherited a really old Johnny Stewart but can't remember what all I have for it. Old enough it has cassettes but it still works lol. I can't thank you enough for the advice. The timing and sequences are what have been the hardest for me to figure out and I know that can be the most important part. Especially on the smart ones.