In the mid 80's I went up on the mountain to do some coyote work on a sheep ranch . I got into the area early while it was still dark . As I was going to the area that I wanted to call I heard a coyote barking and do a short howl so I eased my truck over to a large bolder and parked it on the far side of where the coyote was . I was about 1/2 mile over to where the coyote was . He kept up with barks and howls as I slipped over a small rock pile and worked my way toward him in the timber . I got to within a couple hundred yards of him set up and decided to just watch to see why it was doing what it was . I don't know how long it had been doing the barks and howls before I got to where I could hear it but I know that it kept doing it for over half an hour while I was there and listening and watching it . As I watched it out about 400 yards farther in the edge of some timber and beside a large boulder was another coyote setting there watching the talker . The one doing the talking was trying to draw out the other coyote and kept talking and would move around some out in the open . I finally shot the talker then crept around to some timber and moved in on the setter to where I could get closer to it . It was still setting beside the boulder when I got to 150 yards of it and shot it as well . They were both males but the one by the bolder was setting beside a hole under the bolder that had pups in it . I didn't get the female but did do some learning that morning and got some new sounds that the coyote talker taught me and have been used several times since . I still to this day think the talker was one of the parents and the setter was the intruder . At that stage in my life I didn't know enough to be able to get the female so was happy with the two adults and the pups . I knew to drive slowly with my lights off and to use a gas powered truck so it was quiet with my windows down so I could hear things . Not slam my doors and to watch where my feet went as I walked . I had already learned how to walk quietly and get set up then be observant and let the coyote teach me new things . A good pair of glass' and patience has allowed me to see so much in the field . If I could impress any thing on any one it would be to take your time and watch what the coyote or other animals are doing that you are hunting and learn from them . You will be tempted to shoot them on sight but I have learned so much by just letting them be for a while when they didn't know I was even there and they were acting naturally . If you can just wait , listen and watch then try calling them after they have shown you where , when and why they are doing what they are doing you will find it much easier to actually call them . They will give you good opportunities to shoot them with out trying to call them when you have learned about their lives , where they hang out , and why they hang out where they do , when they will be out active or laid up . When they don't know you are any where close to them you don't have to hurry a shot even a coyote that is trotting can be easily missed if you don't get the range and move with it as they come to a call in a hurry . As Reemty and others know spotting and shooting can be more rewarding then calling . I hope that you all can enjoy your summer learning more about what ever it is that you want to hunt .