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Question on grouse

brcfo_outdoors said:
in CA it is legal to use airguns of any caliber on grouse. Additionally, sooty and ruffed grouse are the only upland game birds that can be taken with a pistol or rifle (ie. rimfire).

§311. Methods Authorized for Taking Resident Small Game.

The take or attempted take of any resident small game with a firearm shall be in accordance with the use of nonlead projectiles and ammunition pursuant to Section 250.1. Only the following may be used to take resident small game:

  • (a) Shotguns 10 gauge or smaller using shot shells only and incapable of holding more than three shells in the magazine and chamber combined. If a plug is used to reduce the capacity of a magazine to fulfill the requirements of this section, the plug must be of one piece construction incapable of removal without disassembling the gun.
  • (b) Shotgun shells may not be used or possessed that contain shot size larger than No. BB, except that shot size larger than No. 2 may not be used or possessed when taking wild turkey. All shot shall be loose in the shell.
  • (c) Muzzle-loading shotguns.
  • (d) Falconry.
  • (e) Bow and arrow (see Section 354 for archery equipment regulations).
    • (1) It shall be unlawful to take wild turkey by use of hunting arrows and crossbow bolts unless fitted with a broad head type blade which will not pass through a hole seven-eighths inch in diameter. Mechanical/retractable broadheads shall be measured in the open position.
  • (f) Air rifles powered by compressed air or gas and used with any caliber of pellet, except that wild turkey may only be taken with a pellet that is at least 0.177 caliber.
  • (g) In addition to the methods listed in (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) and (f) above, firearm rifles and pistols may be used for taking rabbits and squirrels only; except in Los Angeles County where rifles and pistols may not be used.
  • (h) In San Diego and Orange counties only, rabbits may be taken at any time during the open season by means of box traps. Such traps shall not exceed 24 inches in any dimension, shall be tended at least once every 24 hours, and shall show the name and address of the trap owner. All rabbits taken under this section shall be immediately killed and become a part of the daily bag limit.
  • (i) Electronic or mechanically-operated calling or sound-reproducing devices are prohibited when attempting to take resident game birds.
  • (j) Coursing dogs may be used to take rabbits.
  • (k) Archers hunting during any archery season may not use or possess a firearm while in the field engaged in archery hunting during an archery season except as provided in subsection (k)(1).
    • (1) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the lawful possession of a concealed firearm by an active peace officer listed in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3, of Part 2 of the Penal Code or a retired peace officer in lawful possession of an identification certificate issued pursuant to Penal Code Section 25445 authorizing the retired officer to carry a concealed firearm. Nor shall this section prohibit the lawful possession of a concealed firearm pursuant to a concealed carry permit issued pursuant to Penal Code sections 26150 or 26155.
  • (l) The use of live decoys is prohibited when attempting to take resident game birds.
  • (m) Pistols and revolvers may be used to take sooty and ruffed grouse in those counties only and for the season described in Section 300(a)(1)(E).
  • (n) Crossbows, except for provisions of Section 354(d) and (g).
  • (o) Dogs may be used to take and retrieve resident small game.
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Who makes non lead pellets ? Is a factory twist barrel enough to stabilize them ?
 
H&N and JSB make high quality lead free pellets, in .177, .22, and .25 caliber.

Matthias 👍🏼


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Predator is the rebranded JSB pellet:

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codyadams said:
Man, California sucks so hard.....
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The supposed justification for the blowgun ban is ridiculous as well. I think they are afraid of small game poaching, as if the blowgun hunting demographic will somehow make a dent in the cottontail population. That and stop the people who already have them and are going to shoot or attempt to shoot small game and birds anyways, license or not.
 
NOPE!! It's to keep blow gun wars off the streets of Westwood
brcfo_outdoors said:
The supposed justification for the blowgun ban is ridiculous as well. I think they are afraid of small game poaching, as if the blowgun hunting demographic will somehow make a dent in the cottontail population. That and stop the people who already have them and are going to shoot or attempt to shoot small game and birds anyways, license or not.
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T.P.
 
I realize the push is towards pellet guns, but the 17 hm2 was made for grouse harvesting.

My Ptarmigan/grouse hunting with the little 17 accounts for a disturbingly large proportion of days afield. Even talked the wife into a week long hunting trip for the tasty little birds. I've tried every rimfire combo imaginable and the Mach 2 is the clear king. Even comes in 15.5 ntx flavor for those of you behind enemy lines.
 

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