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What is the best way to break in a new rifle to increase accuracy? I have a Rem. Model 700 (300 Ultra mag). gun)
Proper Break in of a Rifle for max. accuracy.
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Try this-----is not a quick and dirty process favored by many but it does work and the person who wrote it knows what he is doing. That being said ----- with a factory rifle it will take a little longer to get things smoothed out but only a few more shots:
Proper Barrel Break-in
ensures long Barrel Life
Proper barrel break-in procedures are crucial for top accuracy and performance. More barrels are damaged by cleaning rods than by any amount of regular shooting a person may do. If not done correctly, one can do more harm than good.
The barrel break-in technique we endorse, is the "Speedy Method" named after Speedy Gonzalez, owner of S.G.& Y Rifles. Speedy is well known in Benchrest disciplines; national champion, world record holder, and Hall of Fame member in the National Benchrest Shooters Association (NBRSA). He has given permission to share with you, his expert advice on the correct method of barrel break-in and cleaning.
Rifle Cleaning the Right Way
Barrel break-in. Many of our customers upon taking delivery of their new rifle or barrel are in a quandary as how to go about breaking in their rifle for maximum life and accuracy. With so much written in magazines these days stating use this, don't use that, brush, don't brush...what's a person to do?? At S.G.& Y. Rifles, we have a unique opportunity to inspect many rifle barrels on a daily basis with our video borescope. Consequently, we see the results of a variety of barrel break-in and cleaning procedures, and most of them leave the rifle owners with their mouth agape when they see the fruits of their misinformed labor on our color monitor. We have seen practically new barrels ruined with less than a hundred rounds shot through them by some of the crazy and sometimes humorous barrel break-in methods. Anyway here goes for what it's worth.
(Speedy is correct about the Bore Scopes-----I have watched him look at many a tube and find all kinds of horrors that the owners would and did swear they were clean because the patch came out white!)
A. Bore guides- If you don't have one, get one! Without a good bore guide you are just wasting your time trying to break-in a barrel or cleaning it for that matter. More rifle barrels are destroyed by cleaning without a bore guide than by shooting! There are many types and brands of bore guides available on the market and range in price from $5.00 to $50.00. The only one we recommend is the Lucas two-piece bore guide. They are the best insurance you can buy for that new barrel. All other bore guides in my opinion are only good for keeping the solvents out of the trigger and action.
B. Solvents - We recommend Sweets 7.62 for copper and a *solvent mix of our own (Actually Pat McMillan gave me this formula) for powder fouling and for cleaning/storing your rifle for the next match or season. This Speedy Formula is made as follows:
Mix 2/3 rds. Hoppes No. 9 Plus Black Powder solvent with 1/3rd. Regular Hoppes No. 9 Nitro solvent. Let this mixture set overnight and it will form a sort of gel that adheres very well to the brush and cuts powder fouling to a minimum.
* Note: Butches Boreshine may be substituted for this Speedy formula.
C. Procedure for "Break-in" - Before firing that first shot, clean the barrel as if it had been shot by following these simple steps.
Step 1. Insert Lucas bore guide into receiver and chamber. If you don't have one stop here and get one, if not, just shoot your rifle and forget trying to take any care of your barrel at all. If you do have one, proceed, and give yourself one "At-A-Boy" for being astute enough to have purchased the proper tools for the job.
Note: One "Aw-****" wipes out ALL "At-A-Boys".
Step 2. Run one wet patch of Sweets through the bore and let soak for approximately 30 seconds. Do not patch this out.
Step 3. Next, run the brush through the barrel only enough to expose the entire brush. Yes, I know that you still have 12 more inches of cleaning rod you could push out the end of your barrel but we want to protect that new crown. Also, if that rod hangs out that far, you will eventually start wearing down the rifling at the crown from about 4 to 7 o'clock. This is very bad "JU-JU" for accuracy. OK, back to our next step. Once the brush is exposed, saturate it well with our Speedy Formula or Butch's Boreshine and SLOWLY run the brush through the barrel 10 complete back and forth passes while keeping the rod as straight as possible. This is when the Lucas bore guide really pays for itself! Remember, the key word is slowly. We are not trying to break any land speed records today. Let this sit a minute or two and proceed to the next step.
Step 4. After you have let the barrel soak for a few moments, saturate a patch with the Speedy Formula or Butch's Boreshine and pass it through the bore. Follow this with 2 dry patches and then dry the chamber with Brake Kleen or lighter fluid. Next, gently wipe the crown off with a soft cloth and lube your bolt (lets not gall the lugs just yet). Now, your ready to shoot your first shot. Then follow the schedule below to complete your barrel break-in.
1. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 1 shot.
2. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 5 shots.
3. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 10 shots.
4. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 10 to 15 shots and clean again.
D. Additional Barrel Break-in and Cleaning Tips -
1. Each time you clean you may also follow the last dry patch with a patch soaked with LOCK-EEZ. This is a graphite powder suspended in a quick evaporating carrier that coats the bore slightly before passing that first round through a completely dry bore.
2. We are always asked about powder fouling and how to remove it. The only product that we have seen that really does a good job on powder fouling, especially on the carbon ring that forms just ahead of where the neck ends in the chamber, is IOSSO Bore Paste. This is used with a Pro-Shot nylon bristle brush and worked slowly in the neck and throat areas, then slowly down the entire bore. Follow this up with a few wet patches, then dry the bore as usual, and your ready to shoot.
E. Follow the outline above for your regular cleaning program and I promise that your rifle barrels will deliver their greatest accuracy and life without a lot of grief and hours of wondering if they are clean.
Good Shooting,
Speedy Gonzalez
(I have been using this with some minor modifications for several years and the Bore Scope will tell you exactly when everything is in good shape ----- esp the dreaded carbon ring in the forward area of the chamber!!)
DWM
Proper Barrel Break-in
ensures long Barrel Life
Proper barrel break-in procedures are crucial for top accuracy and performance. More barrels are damaged by cleaning rods than by any amount of regular shooting a person may do. If not done correctly, one can do more harm than good.
The barrel break-in technique we endorse, is the "Speedy Method" named after Speedy Gonzalez, owner of S.G.& Y Rifles. Speedy is well known in Benchrest disciplines; national champion, world record holder, and Hall of Fame member in the National Benchrest Shooters Association (NBRSA). He has given permission to share with you, his expert advice on the correct method of barrel break-in and cleaning.
Rifle Cleaning the Right Way
Barrel break-in. Many of our customers upon taking delivery of their new rifle or barrel are in a quandary as how to go about breaking in their rifle for maximum life and accuracy. With so much written in magazines these days stating use this, don't use that, brush, don't brush...what's a person to do?? At S.G.& Y. Rifles, we have a unique opportunity to inspect many rifle barrels on a daily basis with our video borescope. Consequently, we see the results of a variety of barrel break-in and cleaning procedures, and most of them leave the rifle owners with their mouth agape when they see the fruits of their misinformed labor on our color monitor. We have seen practically new barrels ruined with less than a hundred rounds shot through them by some of the crazy and sometimes humorous barrel break-in methods. Anyway here goes for what it's worth.
(Speedy is correct about the Bore Scopes-----I have watched him look at many a tube and find all kinds of horrors that the owners would and did swear they were clean because the patch came out white!)
A. Bore guides- If you don't have one, get one! Without a good bore guide you are just wasting your time trying to break-in a barrel or cleaning it for that matter. More rifle barrels are destroyed by cleaning without a bore guide than by shooting! There are many types and brands of bore guides available on the market and range in price from $5.00 to $50.00. The only one we recommend is the Lucas two-piece bore guide. They are the best insurance you can buy for that new barrel. All other bore guides in my opinion are only good for keeping the solvents out of the trigger and action.
B. Solvents - We recommend Sweets 7.62 for copper and a *solvent mix of our own (Actually Pat McMillan gave me this formula) for powder fouling and for cleaning/storing your rifle for the next match or season. This Speedy Formula is made as follows:
Mix 2/3 rds. Hoppes No. 9 Plus Black Powder solvent with 1/3rd. Regular Hoppes No. 9 Nitro solvent. Let this mixture set overnight and it will form a sort of gel that adheres very well to the brush and cuts powder fouling to a minimum.
* Note: Butches Boreshine may be substituted for this Speedy formula.
C. Procedure for "Break-in" - Before firing that first shot, clean the barrel as if it had been shot by following these simple steps.
Step 1. Insert Lucas bore guide into receiver and chamber. If you don't have one stop here and get one, if not, just shoot your rifle and forget trying to take any care of your barrel at all. If you do have one, proceed, and give yourself one "At-A-Boy" for being astute enough to have purchased the proper tools for the job.
Note: One "Aw-****" wipes out ALL "At-A-Boys".
Step 2. Run one wet patch of Sweets through the bore and let soak for approximately 30 seconds. Do not patch this out.
Step 3. Next, run the brush through the barrel only enough to expose the entire brush. Yes, I know that you still have 12 more inches of cleaning rod you could push out the end of your barrel but we want to protect that new crown. Also, if that rod hangs out that far, you will eventually start wearing down the rifling at the crown from about 4 to 7 o'clock. This is very bad "JU-JU" for accuracy. OK, back to our next step. Once the brush is exposed, saturate it well with our Speedy Formula or Butch's Boreshine and SLOWLY run the brush through the barrel 10 complete back and forth passes while keeping the rod as straight as possible. This is when the Lucas bore guide really pays for itself! Remember, the key word is slowly. We are not trying to break any land speed records today. Let this sit a minute or two and proceed to the next step.
Step 4. After you have let the barrel soak for a few moments, saturate a patch with the Speedy Formula or Butch's Boreshine and pass it through the bore. Follow this with 2 dry patches and then dry the chamber with Brake Kleen or lighter fluid. Next, gently wipe the crown off with a soft cloth and lube your bolt (lets not gall the lugs just yet). Now, your ready to shoot your first shot. Then follow the schedule below to complete your barrel break-in.
1. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 1 shot.
2. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 5 shots.
3. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 10 shots.
4. Clean barrel / lube bolt / 10 to 15 shots and clean again.
D. Additional Barrel Break-in and Cleaning Tips -
1. Each time you clean you may also follow the last dry patch with a patch soaked with LOCK-EEZ. This is a graphite powder suspended in a quick evaporating carrier that coats the bore slightly before passing that first round through a completely dry bore.
2. We are always asked about powder fouling and how to remove it. The only product that we have seen that really does a good job on powder fouling, especially on the carbon ring that forms just ahead of where the neck ends in the chamber, is IOSSO Bore Paste. This is used with a Pro-Shot nylon bristle brush and worked slowly in the neck and throat areas, then slowly down the entire bore. Follow this up with a few wet patches, then dry the bore as usual, and your ready to shoot.
E. Follow the outline above for your regular cleaning program and I promise that your rifle barrels will deliver their greatest accuracy and life without a lot of grief and hours of wondering if they are clean.
Good Shooting,
Speedy Gonzalez
(I have been using this with some minor modifications for several years and the Bore Scope will tell you exactly when everything is in good shape ----- esp the dreaded carbon ring in the forward area of the chamber!!)
DWM
sniperVLS
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I know a guy who cleaned his barrel every 3 - 5 shots until he got to 150 or so...to that I say kiss my longrangehunting @$$.
So the Iosso paste I have is actually good for something...go figure.
So the Iosso paste I have is actually good for something...go figure.
About the Iosso paste----if you had a bore scope you would not be making that statement me thinks. Used per the instructions it will save you many strokes with solvent coated brushes and patches esp when it comes to carbon and fouling removal. Would not have believed it until I saw it with my own eyes.
sniperVLS
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Now with the Iosso, the patch comes out black every time but I heard that's the reaction it has and will always come out black. Was I misinformed? If the patch with Iosso is ever supposed to come out white, I have a LOT of freakin cleaning to do. Please advise.....
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Here is another alternative. 
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS INTENDED FOR MATURE AUDIENCES. THE STUNTS WERE PREFORMED BY A PROFESSIONAL AND SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPED AT HOME.
YouTube - Proper Barrel Break-in Procedure
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING VIDEO IS INTENDED FOR MATURE AUDIENCES. THE STUNTS WERE PREFORMED BY A PROFESSIONAL AND SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPED AT HOME.
YouTube - Proper Barrel Break-in Procedure
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Parkerb14
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Cooper Firearms reccomends clean every 1 for first five then every 5 for 25...I think....
elkhuntinguide
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P Kunda that would be niether. That is not me in the video. I was just adding a little humor to the thread. I thought the video was extremely funny.
Forgive me, Please. Lighten up a little. Life is to short to go around always so serious.
Have a nice day Dick uhhh I mean Peter.
Forgive me, Please. Lighten up a little. Life is to short to go around always so serious.
Have a nice day Dick uhhh I mean Peter.
You do that alot.. The guy in the video is "Nobody" on Snipershide and Big Stick on other boards
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Thanks jwp475. I sent him an explaination in a PM.
Didnt know the video would bother someone that much. Geeezzzzzzzz.
Didnt know the video would bother someone that much. Geeezzzzzzzz.
sniperVLS
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So that's NOBODY from the Hide huh?
...ducking out of this thread before it gets any worse
...ducking out of this thread before it gets any worse
Yes the Iosso will come out every single time as black as coal even on a brand new tube. I know of many folks who Iosso a new tube prior to ever sending a round down it. Make sure and use the Iosso brushes as they really get into the lands and grooves to remove all traces of fouling. To remove it I will use brake cleaner (same stuff as guns scrubber) except it is 2.49 a can by the case to blast off your brushes then hose out the bore guide and barrel. The put the copper brush back on and then use your solvent (I use Butches) to get the remainder of the paste out. When the tight patch comes out snow white you are done. When you push a patch through the bore it will feel as smooth as glass.
Try this and let me know what you think.. I have done this too many times to count. The odd thing about this is my friends dad had a rifle that he swore had been shot out because the accuracy had gone to to over 2moa at 100 and he was ready to retire it. I got out the BS and it had almost 50 years of carbon fouling and a carbon ring you could wear on your finger!!!!! It took me almost an hour but finally got it clean (used 3 treatments of the Iosso procedure) then using some 30 year old ammo that was loaded with the old IMR metal cans proceded to shoot 1 inch again. Made a convert right then and there of the BS and the Iosso.
