Problems with new gun

I'm thinking nitriding also just have to get anorescope and see if we can see anything
If the barrel wasn't perfectly cleaned before being sent it will create pockets in the nitriding, then when barrel comes back from nitriding Id wear out two bronze brushes cleaning to remove the crud, often it looks like rust at first.
 
Sounds like multiple problems. Start with scope & mounts. Check out twist rate by actually measuring twist then load appropriate length bullet.

Distant hits might indicate scope problems. Sideways hits indicate inadequate stabilty.

Assuming good crown, problem exists with brake removed. No visble internal bore problems.

Is this a 6.5 147 Hornady ELDM? Bullet length 1.440, tip length .142, Sg = 2.29 with 7.5 twist sounds good - should not hit sideways. Should not blow up at 3,000 fps with 7.5 twist.

Checking out twist rate by actually measuring it & check out mounts & use a different scope.
 
"If" your rifle is all set up and your barrel has the same twist rate as your barrel, you might consider shooting his ammo/load off yours as part of your troubleshooting. Or your ammo/load to his rifle—just a thought for your consideration. Good luck!
Bartlein uses a 5R cut rifle a fast twist 1-7.5 It is easier on the jackets than a 1-7.5 button 6 grove . Example my Bartlein 1-7.5 will be easier on the 147 gr jackets than my Proof if it was a 1-7.5 so my Proof is a 1-8 twist. The only thing that can cause that kind of inaccuracy in my opinion is the bullet is coming apart.
 
Bartlein uses a 5R cut rifle a fast twist 1-7.5 It is easier on the jackets than a 1-7.5 button 6 grove . Example my Bartlein 1-7.5 will be easier on the 147 gr jackets than my Proof if it was a 1-7.5 so my Proof is a 1-8 twist. The only thing that can cause that kind of inaccuracy in my opinion is the bullet is coming apart.
Fennix I didn't mean too quote you , I posted in the wrong spot , my apologies.
 
Sounds like multiple problems. Start with scope & mounts. Check out twist rate by actually measuring twist then load appropriate length bullet.

Distant hits might indicate scope problems. Sideways hits indicate inadequate stabilty.

Assuming good crown, problem exists with brake removed. No visble internal bore problems.

Is this a 6.5 147 Hornady ELDM? Bullet length 1.440, tip length .142, Sg = 2.29 with 7.5 twist sounds good - should not hit sideways. Should not blow up at 3,000 fps with 7.5 twist.

Checking out twist rate by actually measuring it & check out mounts & use a different scope.
When I built my last 6.5 Prc Straight Jacket Aromory said that the 1-7.5 twist Proof barrels were spinning the jackets off of the 147 gr eldm bullets . I went with the 1-8 in that type of rifling 6 grove button . I also think that Hornady had a batch of bullets in the 147 gr that was more prone too that problem .
 
When I built my last 6.5 Prc Straight Jacket Aromory said that the 1-7.5 twist Proof barrels were spinning the jackets off of the 147 gr eldm bullets . I went with the 1-8 in that type of rifling 6 grove button . I also think that Hornady had a batch of bullets in the 147 gr that was more prone too that problem .
I suppose that is possible. My .257 Wby is a 5R 1:7" and I used 2 boxes of factory ammo with 100g SP by Weatherby to break in the barrel. The ammo was loaded for 1:10" but did not have any issues being propelled out of 1:7" at 200 yards.
 
I suppose that is possible. My .257 Wby is a 5R 1:7" and I used 2 boxes of factory ammo with 100g SP by Weatherby to break in the barrel. The ammo was loaded for 1:10" but did not have any issues being propelled out of 1:7" at 200 yards.
That is my point the 5r will allow a faster twist with thin jackets the 6 groove button is harder on the jacket
 
That is my point the 5r will allow a faster twist with thin jackets the 6 groove button is harder on the jacket
Sorry, I meant to quote your #67 post about over-stabilizing instead of #73; thus, the reference 1:7" vs. 1:10" for the 100g SP.

I would check the twist , if it's a 1-7.5 or faster you may be spinning the jackets off of those 147 gr eldm bullets , it sounds like a over stabilizing of the bullet , or something going on with the nitriding . Post # 37 from Idaho Lefty is on the right track . If I were a betting man I bet that barrel is a 1-7.5 or faster , too fast for 147 eldm s that can be a good thing in the long run , keep us posted.
 
My brother has a new gun it's a tikka action brux barrel in 6.5 max barrel has been nitrided inside and out first 15 shells through no problem went to the range the other day and one bullet through target looked like the bullet was tumbling perfect silhouette of bullet next bullet looked like it had mushroomed through target went home checked everything crown was a little rusty no gouges or grooves in crown but gunsmith recrowned it 3rd time we went out could not even hit target one bullet would hit 8 feet low and 3 feet right next roun would be 6 feet high and 3 feet to the left please help no idea what is going on. Bullet 140 eldm powder vitahouri n165 55 grains cci 250 mag primers.
Probably not your problem but several years ago a gunsmith told me that someone brought him a 22-250 that was keyholing and even missing the 100 yd target. The gun was pristine condition on the outside. The gunsmith cleaned the bore and actual pieces of rust came out. The barrel was then so pitted that it was worthless. The problem had been the rust was damaging the bullet to the point of it tumbling and occasionally flying apart due to the deep gouging in the jacket. Loose screws or bad scope would not make a bullet fly apart or tumble in flight. I have shot a rifle that the action screws were finger tight and the scope was loose on the bases and it would still shoot under a foot. There must be something so wrong with your set up that it should be easy to track down.
 
Ok gentlemen we went out and shot problem gun adj brass, cci 250 m primers, 60gr 570, 156 Bergers shot # 5 I seen two ground after bullet went through target 3 feet right of target and about one foot left of target.
 

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