Powder dispenser.

[Muledeerhuntingfreak]

Well I'm tired of the Frankford arsenal intellidropper powder dispenser I have. I have two of them and both have there issues. Whats the next best thing ? Not sure i can swing the Autotrickler stuff currently

Yeah, me too.I'm fallowing had three and they all have failed i keep sending them back and that keeps sending me another one. Undone, last 1 is 2/10 of a grain off of my other and held electronic scales. I wanna precision little tiny one. It seems to be the best. Never I miss never an issue. Always reads the same.

 

[lancetkenyon]

I used an old Hornady Auto Charge, then transfered to an RCBS 5-0-5 beam scale to trickle up for YEARS.
I almost bought an Autotrickler V3 w. A&D FX120i about 10 times. Then the V4 about 10 times. Always waited.

Then the Supertrickler came out. Watches 2 videos and ordered one right away.

They are pricey, but I love mine. It has cut reloading time by probably 400%, and accuracy is to the individual kernel of powder. I saw no drop in accuracy or increase in ES/SD for my hand loads. It totally changed the process in which I reload.

 

[Teri Anne]

Well I'm tired of the Frankford arsenal intellidropper powder dispenser I have. I have two of them and both have there issues. Whats the next best thing ? Not sure i can swing the Autotrickler stuff currently

To my humble way of thinking, none of the auto powder measures are accurate enough. Everybody here is supposedly loading for accuracy or velocity. We load ladders at .1 or .2 grain intervals to find the load that is the most accurate for our rifles, then rely on some form of powder measure to throw charges to 0.0 grains difference from what we have so carefully worked up as the most accurate. Powder measures/throwers as some call them, are not 0.0 gr accurate. I electronically weigh each powder charge that goes into every rifle cartridge that I load. I find that my powder measure varies by up to .4 gr for each charge, especially when using extruded powders like IMR or H 4350 and the like. Flake and ball powders are much more accurate but can still vary up to .2 gr either way. Not only does this affect accuracy, but safety also when loading max charges. If you want accuracy, throw short and trickle up to the desired charge. I use the approach to charge method, throw light then slowly trickle until the desired charge weight shows on the scale. I have found that by doing this I can load the most accurate powder charge possible. And before you ask, yes this method is used for all rifle ammo, no matter whether it is practice, match or hunting ammo. Time consuming, absolutely. Is it worth it, absolutely. Once a load is established sub moa becomes the standard not the desire. There are very few fliers and I can attribute any flier to me, not the rifle or ammo.

 

[Bang4theBuck]

To my humble way of thinking, none of the auto powder measures are accurate enough. Everybody here is supposedly loading for accuracy or velocity. We load ladders at .1 or .2 grain intervals to find the load that is the most accurate for our rifles, then rely on some form of powder measure to throw charges to 0.0 grains difference from what we have so carefully worked up as the most accurate. Powder measures/throwers as some call them, are not 0.0 gr accurate. I electronically weigh each powder charge that goes into every rifle cartridge that I load. I find that my powder measure varies by up to .4 gr for each charge, especially when using extruded powders like IMR or H 4350 and the like. Flake and ball powders are much more accurate but can still vary up to .2 gr either way. Not only does this affect accuracy, but safety also when loading max charges. If you want accuracy, throw short and trickle up to the desired charge. I use the approach to charge method, throw light then slowly trickle until the desired charge weight shows on the scale. I have found that by doing this I can load the most accurate powder charge possible. And before you ask, yes this method is used for all rifle ammo, no matter whether it is practice, match or hunting ammo. Time consuming, absolutely. Is it worth it, absolutely. Once a load is established sub moa becomes the standard not the desire. There are very few fliers and I can attribute any flier to me, not the rifle or ammo.

Teri Anne:
I subscribe and exercise your approach, exactly you you describe above. However, my understanding of these auto-tricklers is that it is the same exact process, only.it is automated. I have witnessed two of these Autotricklers in action and I have to say, I don't see how anyone could claim that their process is more accurate than what these high-end systems yield. It comes down to the accuracy of the scale you are using, as these tricklers simply dispense automatically based on what the scale is reporting. I've not heard anyone say that these A&D scales are inaccurate, and their resolution is tighter than the typical auto-dispenser. These scales have enough resolution to see pretty much every granule, ball, or flake or powder. I'm just not sure what's better than that.

 

[lancetkenyon]

To my humble way of thinking, none of the auto powder measures are accurate enough. Everybody here is supposedly loading for accuracy or velocity. We load ladders at .1 or .2 grain intervals to find the load that is the most accurate for our rifles, then rely on some form of powder measure to throw charges to 0.0 grains difference from what we have so carefully worked up as the most accurate. Powder measures/throwers as some call them, are not 0.0 gr accurate. I electronically weigh each powder charge that goes into every rifle cartridge that I load. I find that my powder measure varies by up to .4 gr for each charge, especially when using extruded powders like IMR or H 4350 and the like. Flake and ball powders are much more accurate but can still vary up to .2 gr either way. Not only does this affect accuracy, but safety also when loading max charges. If you want accuracy, throw short and trickle up to the desired charge. I use the approach to charge method, throw light then slowly trickle until the desired charge weight shows on the scale. I have found that by doing this I can load the most accurate powder charge possible. And before you ask, yes this method is used for all rifle ammo, no matter whether it is practice, match or hunting ammo. Time consuming, absolutely. Is it worth it, absolutely. Once a load is established sub moa becomes the standard not the desire. There are very few fliers and I can attribute any flier to me, not the rifle or ammo.

Hornady Auto Charge, RCBS Chargemaster and Matchmaster, Frankford Intellidropper, etc. I agree. I used to do the same. Throw .3gr light, transfer to RCBS 5-0-5 beam scale and trickle up by hand. Took about 90+ seconds for each load.

But I guarantee the units like the Autotrickler V3/V4 and Super Trickler that use the A&D FX-120i are just as accurate (to within .02gr) as a beam scale and trickling up to the individual kernel of powder. And do so within 5-25 seconds usually, depending on your settings and charge weight.
A good, calibrated and adjusted beam scale won't tell you how much you are over or under, just that you are slightly over or under.

Varget weighs .02gr per kernel average. Meaning weighing to a single kernel
H4350 weighs .03gr per kernel average. Meaning weighing to within 2/3 of a kernel
H1000 & RL23 weighs .04gr per kernel average. Meaning weighing to within half a kernel
RL33 N565 N568 weighs .05gr per kernel average. Meaning weighing to under half a kernel
N570 weighs .08gr per kernel average. Meaning weighing to within a quarter of a kernel

The only ball powder I use is Benchmark for my varmint loads in .223.

 

[skipglo]

I have good results with the Lyman scales...I've used them for many years. Gen 4-Gen 6. I always set them .2- .4 under depending on type of powder and hand trickle to exact weight wanted. But I have had no issues with them going out of sync. Just me

 

[yankee outlaw]

hi there 806
don hear i have a used rcbs charge master for sale if your interested maybe like 200 delivered