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Optics

Clem Bronkoski

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Am I missing something? I've been looking at some of the scope prices across the board and I just can't justify paying over $1000 for a rifle scope when there are so many scopes for less with excellent glass and features. Arken, Athlon and a few others come to mind.
I'll admit I'm no "glass dnob" (no offense) but what's the scoop?
 
Buy a $1000 scope and run it hard for a year and come back. Does it still hold zero? Does it track? Is it consistent?

The premium scopes can just handle more use and abuse in my experience and I'll pay an extra $2000 for the warm-fuzzy feeling my next shot will doped right.

If you dial for an 800 yard shot five times a year, $1000 glass is probably (maybe) fine. 😁
 
Legacy reputations were often earned for a reason, like so many things in this life they come with a price. Certainly not needed by everyone, 1000 bucks buys a ton of scope from so many companies, compared to equivalent dollars it's leap years ahead of what was available 15 or 20 years ago.

But features aren't always the only thing that matters. There is no guarantee that a nf atacr will be 100% for every hunt but they as well as their consumers pay a premium in the belief that it will have a higher chance than the arken, athalon, etch.

Some pay way more for domestic or ally country of origin. Was about 14 when work had payed for a decent 22, pump 12 and basic bolt 3006. Everything since then has been discretionary spending, as such even country of origin is a viable reason to buy a much more expensive scope. No fault to those who have other values or reasons, for me everything is non essential and I choose allies after domestic.


Circling back to my first line, some companies and even some specific lines of scopes have proven themselves. I've had a few hunts that required boats planes and some extreme physical exertion to complete. The price of a more budget minded scope vs a known reliable premium was only a small percentage of the cost of the hunt.

Way different story when I hunted a ranch 18 miles from my house in college. Gear failure meant a 20 minute ride home and I'd still have the opportunity the next day. Gear failure on a hunt hundreds of miles down the Alaska peninsula after a week of fighting weather and expending many hours and thousands of dollars to be there.... is soul crushing. I've seen scope brands become seething swear words in those instances.
 
The cheap ones work but for how long ?
Run a high end scope then go run a lower end and you'll know why they are lower end.
The guys that put their life on the line in war zones are not using Arken They are using Night Force, and Schmidt and Bender for a reason.
I think everyone should be able to enjoy the hobby so spend what you can and have a good time but I do believe in the saying buy once cry once.
 
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You're paying for reliability, for one thing, then good glass, yes they're is a major difference. Buy once, cry once. Sell all your scope, but 1 really nice piece of glass and you are set. Most guys buy glass for each and every rifle, add that all up and you have spent more then what a TT, ZCO, or March costs
 
Coyote opportunities are too precious to me to worry about optic problems,I am pretty rough on equipment as are a lot of serious coyote hunters.If a guy makes 15 or 20 stands in a day hardly anybody puts their gun in a case every time.Think my Leupold VX5HD was worth every penny,at least to me.
 
The scoop is tier1 optics are usually better. Simple as that.

Ideally, they should tract better, have better glass, multicoatings which can help pop colors and makes seeing on low light little better depending on the brand and model in question.

Generally this will include also getting a more robust erector assembly and a "better" travel range of adjustment.

Theres also might be special reticles and other features you might find and so forth.

Now you might reread my first sentence that tier 1 is simply better. That is usually the case. However, is a tier 1 scope $2-3000 mo better? For most people, no.

Another fact is that the Gucci tier 1 optics won't make you suck any less. A lot of people would be better served spending the money saved on extra ammo and range time. Imo
 
I was on a cow elk hunt spotting for my stepbrother… He borrowed my rebarreled 6.5 weatherby RPM chambered savage…
Had a NF nx8….
There was other hunters (cow tag)down the way of us waiting for the same herd to show up in the morning…
Well first official light was not bright enough lol… We wanted to get the first shot off… It was a long ten minutes before we could make out the cows from the bulls… He did get his cow… Shooting suppressed didn't scare the herd off but the other hunters shot out of the excitement and dropped a bull…
They had a package 6.5 creed with a cheaper vortex…
The better glass bought time early in the morning and I'm sure shooting light in the evening…
I have always liked optics better than the rifles themselves… But I understand the pain of dropping a lot of cash… I can't afford Tangent theta scopes but I wish I could…
There are a lot of "good enough" scopes out there that will get the job done… Just know the limitations of your equipment…
I do believe in the cry once adage…
But we all have our budgets…
I treat scopes with the idea that it's a lifelong investment… I may sell the rifle out from under it but the scope stays…
 
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