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Optic for new shooter

You stated your max budget, now figure out the features to go along with it. Then pick the scope that has those features within your price range.

Now for an opinion, skip it if you don't want mine as it has little advice on a scope and goes against the grain:
Personally I may have told you to put a little money towards sending your Leupold in to have turrets put on it and spend the rest on taking a reputable long range class. A good shooting .270 is more than capable of 450-600 yards. Learn to shoot what you have and once your capabilities exceed the limitations of your equipment, you upgrade equipment. Also, If you do not have a good rangefinder I suggest you get one.
This is all dependent on your stated intent of increasing your range/confidence on deer on your property. If competition is gonna be your new venture then I may recant my statement...maybe. And unless your particular discipline of competition requires a .308, you didn't need it. Nothing wrong with a .308, we shoot them to 800 for weeks straight and well past that regularly. I would never, however, advise someone to spend money on anything to teach them to miss. You can do that with any rifle.😁
 
Really want to stick with MOA and second focal plane. Can't get over the shrinking reticles thing. Already signed up for a long range introduction course in March. I just need an optic and practice before I show up and make a fool of myself.

my 270 only seems to like flat base hornady bullets. I tried bullets with a higher BC, my rifle just didn't like them
 
Good on you for taking a course, professional coaching is some of the best money spent. Don't worry about looking like a fool, sometimes easier training someone totally green. I get guys that show up to our course that think they know what they're doing. They are the hardest to get through to, good habits are easier to teach than overcoming bad ones.
 
This whole wind thing is going to be tough. I do not understand how one sees something that is translucent. Maybe I'm trying to buy my way into not struggling as much with better optics? After recommendations I want a zero stop for sure. Seems to be a good way to eliminate being a rotation off my 200 yard zero.
 
Surely you already will and know.. but i would recommend calling cameraland and chatting with Doug. Also I would definitely go with whatever you pick in a 30mm tube vs the one inch.
 
I haven't personally used the leupold 2800. I have a friend using the strike eagle and he really likes it.
 
Have you looked at the folks talking about the Arken and Athlon Midas Tac? Seems like they both work....still a step down from the $1000 optics.
 
I have hunted with rifles-and loaded for them my entire life and had success out to 350 years just using Kentucky windage. However this last hunting season I had a trophy white tail (neighbor killed him 141") that was outside of my range of comfort and rather than chunk one his way in hopes of hitting it, I passed and my neighbor got him the next morning. After having this happened I have gone to several shooting completions and made friends with one guy in particular. He told me the best way for me to learn how compensate for elevation and windage would be to get 223 or a 308 and shoot in conditions. He says this will make me miss and I will learn from it better than buying the latest and greatest caliber and "chasing spotters". After asking multiple others at these 600-1000 yard matches they all basically say the same and one member had a rifle that seems to be set up well for me learn on. It is a Remington 700 20" with a krieger 1:10 bedded in a fiber glass stock. The man I bought it from says it shoots better than 3" groups at 600 and I watched him do it several times shooting 185 grain berger bullets. He gave me the recipe. My only issue is I have already paid $1500 for the rifle dies bullets etc, I still need a scope. I asked him what to get he very adamantly said nightforce or mark 5 leupold.

For the task of learning this game by that through shooting at my property (putting a berm up at 450 yards) and matches what optics would be sufficient for someone that's relatively new to shooting this long range game? At this pop but i have looked at nightforce shv, nx8, and leupold mark 5. I don't mind to pay for a good repeatable scope but components are high and right now I can barley find anything. Any help would be appreciated
If you're on a budget, hands down, the SWFA SS 10x. They are rugged, retain zero, track well, and return to zero like they should. Reticle s simple but effective. Glass is ok, not great, but image quality is not nearly as important as the adjustments doing what they're supposed to. There is no better value.


John
 
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