New to the United States Triggercam

I have one. As far as low light performance, it didn't change things enough for me to notice. On the back end of the scope it's kind of like a very very small constriction on my USO SN3 and no change at all on my Nikon P223 or SWFA 16x42 which I suspect has something to do with the size of the ocular lens on the scope compared to the ocular lens on the Triggercam. I've used mine in a PRS match and had no issues whatsoever. The other solutions on the market either seem like erector sets gone wrong or block the view through the scope or are physically so big that they cause interference with other stuff like parallax knobs, levels, angle indicators and dope card holders. Triggercam is the only one that's actually out of my bloody way and lets me look through my expensive scope without ruining the optics that my expensive scope provides me.
 
So I have this ATN night scope sitting around and I've seen some ads for gizmos that basically put a tablet display on top of a regular rifle scope and adds an illuminator and a janky camera thing and you end up carrying around what looks like a very pointy desktop computer with wires hanging all over the place and none of your turrets accessible. So I grabbed my Triggercam and my ATN scope and holy hell is this the perfect thing for getting video of night time hog and coyote hunting. I could put it over the little rubber cup but instead I pulled off the little rubber cup. Now it does add something ike 14 ounces to the package but the ATN scope is like 4lbs already so it's not a big add all things considered.

Talk about compact:
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This is the ATN 6600. I'll have some footage shortly. It's still daytime.
 
wwbrown said:
My concern would be how bad will it affect lowlight performance? It will definitely reduce it, it takes photons out of the optical path to your eye to form the image, it is just physics. How much it will reduce lowlight performance only testing will show.
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Hasn't been a problem for me at all. I think that particular concern is probably more on paper than in practicality.
 
Here's a really fresh drop, MDT pro-shooter Mike Lilly ran his through an entire PRS match. If a pro shooter is going to stick one on his rifle during a points match, it must be pretty easy to deal with.

 
BallisticsGuy said:
Hasn't been a problem for me at all. I think that particular concern is probably more on paper than in practicality.
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Not if game comes in during the first or last 20 minutes of the allowed hunting day in the woods or swamp any lost light can have significant impact on the ability to ID the target and and make sound shot placement. It is these minutes of the hunting day that make me use Meopta scopes on all of my hunting guns, the exception may be one may sport a Schmidt and Bender I picked up used. I say may as I need to test the S&B to make sure all is good before mounting on one of my hunting guns.
 
Like I said, that concern is on fun on paper but doesn't really exist in real life. I just had mine out on a pig hunt. The swine don't come in to the spot I was set up in except just before or slightly after the end of legal shooting light so it's always a game of how long can you still see the buggers. There wasn't any difference at all in what I could see with or without the Triggercam on the rifle. I was able to poke a hole in a coyote at 200yrds on the shaded east side base of a north-south running ridge line with oak canopy contributing to the darkness. I shot that little turd literally right at the last minute legal shooting light. If it's legal shooting light, the triggercam ain't going to affect squat as far as being able to identify and make good shot placement on game.
 
I will have to agree to disagree with you that is does not make a difference, I used to work in the Optics field when workin for Lockheed. I have spent lots of time at the range with some of the best optics available to civilians and military customers. When you ate at the edge of visibility due to low light evry lost photon has impact and taking enough of them to create an image will have an effect at some point in the last minutes of legal shooting time in the woods or dark swamp. It is especially true for me as all I hunt now is black bear, black reticle on a black target in the last minutes of the legal shooting hours in dense woods, every photon makes a difference.

To test take a high end scope say a S&B PM II and a decent Leupold out to the range and set up an USAF-1951 Resolution Test Standard target and see how your performance on that target degrades as the light diminishes. The S&B PM II has outstanding optical transmission and the Leupolds at the high end are pretty good but not as good as the S&B, probably talking a few percent. You will be able to resolve the AF test target better with the S&B due to its better optical transmission.

How does this performance impact the hunter, a deer hunter will be able to able to size the rack and the bear hunter will be able to make better shot placement.

I have a hunch that you and I still disagree and that is fine, but I will no longer argue as it is probably a waste of time.

Have a good day,
wade
 
wwbrown said:
I will have to agree to disagree with you that is does not make a difference, I used to work in the Optics field when workin for Lockheed. I have spent lots of time at the range with some of the best optics available to civilians and military customers. When you ate at the edge of visibility due to low light evry lost photon has impact and taking enough of them to create an image will have an effect at some point in the last minutes of legal shooting time in the woods or dark swamp. It is especially true for me as all I hunt now is black bear, black reticle on a black target in the last minutes of the legal shooting hours in dense woods, every photon makes a difference.

To test take a high end scope say a S&B PM II and a decent Leupold out to the range and set up an USAF-1951 Resolution Test Standard target and see how your performance on that target degrades as the light diminishes. The S&B PM II has outstanding optical transmission and the Leupolds at the high end are pretty good but not as good as the S&B, probably talking a few percent. You will be able to resolve the AF test target better with the S&B due to its better optical transmission.

How does this performance impact the hunter, a deer hunter will be able to able to size the rack and the bear hunter will be able to make better shot placement.

I have a hunch that you and I still disagree and that is fine, but I will no longer argue as it is probably a waste of time.

Have a good day,
wade
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You keep conflating real world, short range, tight cover situations with the outcome of an equation. You're just in the mood to argue until someone sees it your way. I have one, you don't. I told you what happened in the real world. Accept it or don't. You're your own problem, not mine. Cheers mate.
 
I went dang until I realized that the price was in rands and then change it to US really not bad price
I'm going to have to look through one in person before I buy one
 
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