I think the vortex is a good scope and worth their price. However I don't think they are a night force. In my opinion I'd rather save a little longer and go night force. But it your looking to spend under a $1000 then vortex is a good option. I never thought I'd say this ever but against my screaming my dad bought a bushnell 6500. And I must say I'm impressed with it as we'll. I like it every bit as much as the vortex scopes. Still not a night force. So I guess your decision is how much to spend and how long can you wait. I always pull a scope on one of my other guns not being used at the moment and make due while I scrape together the night force money.