New Member from Michigan - planning for my first "long" range hunt

[K.E.C. Darkside]

Welcome to LRH

Go Wolverine KICK BUCKEYES ASSES.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

Not sure that the 350 will do 300 yards. Will it kill at 300 sure perfect placement and punch a 35 cal hole. But most bullets drop below the min fps to open at 225 yards or less. I have got zero bullets to open at 300 yards. Killed a few deer close to that but bullet never opened.

My limited experience first hand and that of countless others will have to agree.

I shoot bear creek ballistics 350 legend rounds, which are considered the cream of the crop in Michigan for deer season. No relation to the budget brand bear creek arsenal..

Even at about 250 yards you're in the territory of just wounding a deer with 350 legend more than you are effectively placing a lethal shot.

And that's with custom loaded $2/round ammo.

Their own data shows a 167 yard zero and a 21" drop at 300 yards.

A ground blind with a tripod might help but that shot unsupported out of a tree stand or saddle is above the skill level of the overwhelming majority of guys I shoot with or know.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

I'm in Livonia (West of Detroit) until the end of Dec should you want to get together and talk hunting. I live in Wy and have killed quite a few elk. Also a bunch of deer and pronghorn. Happy to discuss details. Email me for my phone number.
Bruce

Thank you. I think I'm still below the post count minimum to message others but will do once I pass that threshold.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

What put me off was you saying Michigan was a straight wall state when it's not . Now you corrected yourself , so ok ,if it was an honest mistake , I get it .

It's the little things that give it away .
And yes , I'm a cynical old guy , but the jury's still out .

Welcome !

I'm not correcting myself in explaining vernacular to you. I'm clarifying because you seem to be out of touch.

This is honestly getting embarrassing, regardless of age.

 

[CRJR45]

I'm not correcting myself in explaining vernacular to you. I'm clarifying because you seem to be out of touch.

This is honestly getting embarrassing, regardless of age.

Alright , I admit I was wrong , I'm sorry !

Sincerly , I appologize .

 

[snox801]

My limited experience first hand and that of countless others will have to agree.

I shoot bear creek ballistics 350 legend rounds, which are considered the cream of the crop in Michigan for deer season. No relation to the budget brand bear creek arsenal..

Even at about 250 yards you're in the territory of just wounding a deer with 350 legend more than you are effectively placing a lethal shot.

And that's with custom loaded $2/round ammo.

Their own data shows a 167 yard zero and a 21" drop at 300 yards.

A ground blind with a tripod might help but that shot unsupported out of a tree stand or saddle is above the skill level of the overwhelming majority of guys I shoot with or know.

I did a bunch of testing for a few people and companies when they launched the legend. Knowing it would be popular here. I was actually shooting deer at distance and killing them closer to 300 yards but shot were perfect. Zero blood trail when I found them bullets never opened. Water testing at 300 showed zero bullet expansion.
I won't break 230 yards with mine and I'm shooting hand loaded hammer bullets.

 

[snox801]

Thank you. I think I'm still below the post count minimum to message others but will do once I pass that threshold.

I'm on the other side of the state but work over your way almost weekly. I would also be more than willing to help you out if I can.
Just shoot a pm when you need to or get enough posts.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

I did a bunch of testing for a few people and companies when they launched the legend. Knowing it would be popular here. I was actually shooting deer at distance and killing them closer to 300 yards but shot were perfect. Zero blood trail when I found them bullets never opened. Water testing at 300 showed zero bullet expansion.
I won't break 230 yards with mine and I'm shooting hand loaded hammer bullets.

That's interesting. Mirrors my experience last season. I took two with it in one evening, both very minimal blood trail using Hornady white tail.

I've heard good stuff about the hammers but not setup to load 350 yet. Bear creek ammo has performed pretty well with blood but the two deer that we failed to recover were both around 250 yard shots.

Which rifles did you test with? Always curious. Any suppressed testing too?

 

[snox801]

That's interesting. Mirrors my experience last season. I took two with it in one evening, both very minimal blood trail using Hornady white tail.

I've heard good stuff about the hammers but not setup to load 350 yet. Bear creek ammo has performed pretty well with blood but the two deer that we failed to recover were both around 250 yard shots.

Which rifles did you test with? Always curious. Any suppressed testing too?

I've run a bolt action American, and a 16" bear creek upper ar. Just about to test subsonic rounds in a few weeks. Have a sbr with a hybrid 46 to test. It's pretty quiet for an ar setup.