New Fierce Rifle not grouping as expected

[RemHutch50]

Yea the action is based off of a Sako action.

 

[Ronald W Schaefer]

Yeah, I have three Sako Rifles and they are great, I also have a Fierce that i really like too--it shoots .5 MOA as advertised with some reload work but it weighs about 6.5 lbs with optics...that's what I really like. The action is based on the Sako action with a twisted bolt and the triggers are modified as well to about 2 3/4 lbs with a very crisp break. They are great rifles and cheaper than most Frankenstein custom builds. They've grown really fast and that's been the biggest impact on customer service--which I think is most people's concern that have these rifles, not the rifle itself.

 

[CVCOBRA1]

I don't have a Sako that won't shoot. They are all the old "L" series. Not bad for 45-65 year rifles.

 

[coyotezapper]

I'm not sure how many actions Fierce uses but I do know the ones I saw were built in Canada but I don't remember the manufacturers name.

 

[LongBomber]

Their customer service was never anything to write home about. I have had mine for 4 years, took me 18 months and many missed promises to get it. That said it does shoot very well. In load testing @100 the bad groups were roughly 1 1/2", a load thats decently tuned is 1/2" fairly easy. But finding that tune is not that easy.

Actions are made in Canada. the actions are well made, the stocks are so-so. The finishing on the earlier rifles was not special, bottom metal thats proud of the stock. Spots where the stock was below the metal. The newer ones I have handled seemed a bit better.

 

[OneGun]

I have had experience with Fierce, a CT Edge 300wsm. When I received it the forend was in contact with the barrel, I sanded it out for clearance. Then I noticed the bolt safety release did not work, after scratching my head I found the receiver was so low in the stock that you could not push the bolt safety release far enough to lift the bolt with safe on, a feature I look for in a rifle. So much for quality control. As for accuracy I could not match their shooting either factory or reload, so it went back to fierce. They had it for the better part 4 months said a new barrel was installed and sent it back with a better target. I'm not sure that another barrel was installed and I am not saying they are liars but a few marks looked awfully familiar. All this being said I have found a factory load that works well (180 trophy copper) I have found I cant shoot Fusions without pulling 3 grains of powder out(way over pressure) and I have found a 130gr ttsx load that shoots really well for the I have tried and 200gr AB load as well. The main problem I have is for the money spent I should not have had deal with poor QC and even though I have shot some (for me) really good groups my confidence is lacking big time. I don't think I could recommend this rifle to a friend with all the choices out there!

 

[FURMAN]

Fierce actions are made by Fierce. They are a Sako clone in the same way most customs are 700 clones. They are not Sakos. I repeat they are made by Fierce. Most of the parts are machined/made in their facility in Canada. I personally feel they make one of if not the best Semi custom/production rifle available. They are by far my favorite action and the only way I could see improving it would be to have machined in picatinny rails. I do feel their customer service leaves a lot to be desired. My newest CT Edge was put together with the throat dimensions I chose by my gunsmith. I ordered the parts from Fierce which they had in stock and sent to my smith and had it in my hands in about 8 weeks. I installed a BixnAndy comp trigger and have the same money in it as my first CT Edge purchased from fierce. The Barrels are wrapped by Fierce using McGowan blanks which have proven to shoot very well. I have had Bartleins and Proofs be ridiculously picky. Everyone makes a turd once in a while. I personally would never expect a rifle to repeatedly shoot factory ammo accurately because factory ammo qc is not great and lot to lot variances are not conducive to accuracy over several lots. The way I see it their test targets prove the rifles can shoot much like Coopers. You still have to be capable and it most certainly helps to reload. I must just be a lucky guy because I get all the great shooting Fierces and Christensens while others claim they are junk.

 

[Canhunter35]

Doesn't fierce send a target with what ammo they used?

 

[FURMAN]

Doesn't fierce send a target with what ammo they used?

Yes. Almost every 28 Nosler of theirs I have seen shoots the 160 AB ammo well under .5moa. I actually can not recall one that wouldn't but as I just stated above it is still factory ammo.

 

[Canhunter35]

Yes. Almost every 28 Nosler of theirs I have seen shoots the 160 AB ammo well under .5moa. I actually can not recall one that wouldn't but as I just stated above it is still factory ammo.

Oh yah, I only read the ops post before posting. But if it will shoot a type of ammo it should be able to do it again with handloads

 

[M T Roberts]

All of these responses are really good. But don't listen to them.

DON'T LET SOMEONE FOOL WITH THIS INVESTMENT AND LOSE YOUR WIFE'S MONEY!

Do yourself a favor and call them back and back arrangements to send the rifle back upon return then shoot what is recommended whether you want to continue with that brand, grain or whatever or not. If the rifle shoots as guaranteed then what ever you do next is on you not Fierce!

Fierce has a great warranty and can't stand the pressure of bad reviews and press. Not even one.

Good Luck Amigo....

 

[WeiserBucks]

Update !

I met up with the OP today took his rifle for an evaluation. I'll give it a thorough cleaning and properly torque everything. Upon 1st inspection, the barrel is certainly floated and nothing really stood out as a potential issue other than the action screws , they were at approximately 23 in. Lbs.

There's a strong possibility that proper torque and a good cleaning will have him right where he wants to be .

Take it easy on the OP , we're not all hardcore tinkerers and handloaders . He bought an upper end factory rifle and expected it to perform. Hopefully it all goes well and he'll have learned something going forward and will be better off as a shooter .

 

[FURMAN]

I hope to see it squared away with something simple. I am sure you know but the Fierce torque spec is 52-53in/lbs.

 

[WeiserBucks]

52.5 it is !
I think it'll be pretty straightforward with a little tinkering.