Ive had 3 pair Swaro and I wouldnt pay retail what they are now.There is alot of great glass out there and lots on the used market in Swaro tone best glass I had was 10x40 Ziess classic and where only not much over 20 oz.Very comparable to swaro and tougher.Ive lost about 4 of the twist up eyecups and had the falcon and other pieces pop of my els, i hunt themhard