HRM Johnny
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I remember when those came out. I was skeptical. Also, I did not think that the price was justified.
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MTNRaine
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Carbide actually or an A, D or S series tool steel it just really depends on the actual alloy of the cartridge case. However if they are hot forming the case that's an completely different animal than cold working it.
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Well if it's proprietary why in the world would they do that? Hahaha. They are hoping for this to be the death of all modern cartridges, I certainly wouldn't offer my competitors the opportunity to snub out my ideas and new cartridge designs to curb the sales and success of a new line I'm introducing. I'm no rocket surgeon but I'd guess that the 7BC Isn't going to be the only new cartridge in this line....
Horsemen61
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You can't anneal it for starters and a steel case in a steel die seems like a problem would arise their is a sound reason for using brass for 100 years now it works and it's safe
WYO300RUM
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I probably was . Was about 3 to 4 years ago. I probably shouldn't of brought it up but thank you !
tomcat818
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I think the 7PRC's weakness created an opening which Federal is trying to fill.
Here's the only video I've seen of an actual range test comparison to 7PRC although barrel lengths are 26" PRC and 16" on the Backcountry. Interesting that accuracy was not shown.
Here's the only video I've seen of an actual range test comparison to 7PRC although barrel lengths are 26" PRC and 16" on the Backcountry. Interesting that accuracy was not shown.
Starbuck
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I should probably watch the whole video before commenting . . . But it's hard for me to take the BF guy seriously. He's made some bone head comments that evince a lack of understanding on some basic rifle and optics theories - such as the effect that greater pressures have on recoil. He's also a shill for anyone willing to throw some coin his way, so how onjective can any of his reviews really be?
Most recently, dispite my better judgement, I was reading a review of scopes he did. On the do not buy list was "anything with the word sniper in the name". I found this highly ironic, as many of us have found the SWFA scopes have been some of the most reliable ever built. But again, he's a shill, and he'll recommend whoever's buttering his bread.
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I like the concept, but the configuration is what bugs me. Yes, we in America innovate,but. Corporate starts with the bottom and slight improvement concept, floats it, if it sticks and gets a share, expands it. They got the case to handle 80K, give us 90 grain capacity and 180 hybrid at 3500FPS out of the gate - not just a new form factor of what I already have access to. And also, the 'stainless alloy' is the salesman's friend. The old steel cases are an alloy too, and I'm sure someone thinks they are special too. I work with marketing from several industries every day and they all speak the truth...about every 7th word.
tomcat818
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I get that but the guy has almost a million subscribers which gets him access to industry leaders so I take it for what it's worth.
I own SWFA SS scopes and they are very good Japanese made scopes and are shown to be military grade utilized by actual snipers in combat.
Starbuck
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I apologize for not making clear that I didn't mean to cast any shade on you for posting the video. It was a good enough introduction to this cartridge and approach..
Yep!
liber
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Me too, but I can't make it through an entire video he does, especially if his wife starts talking/shooting...I'm probably the only one, but she's too airy for me.
But much of what he is saying is not very pertinent to my needs, as all of those cartridges he's comparing it to are long actions. I have been mostly interested in a short action for hunting. For a long action, it looks like the cartridge has some pluses, if it flourishes. That remains to be seen as it has some hurdles mentioned in this thread. Low recoil looks like another plus, and the shorter barrels. He was shooting a 16" barrel. That's a carbine length rifle. 2800+ fps, a managable velocity.
I see the major advantage of high pressure cartridges like the 7mm Backcountry and 277 Fury being for those who want short barrels. In order to reach the higher pressures, the powder must burn more rapidly, allowing more bullet acceleration in the first few inches of the barrel. I also see them as dual-identity cartridges, provided lower pressure, brass-cased ammo is available. Even from relatively short barrels, they would serve most hunters for medium game to 300 or 400 yards. Pull out the more expensive, high pressure stuff for bigger game or longer distances.
I live in NC and many of my friends have never shot at an animal over 200 yards away. Some of them still have rifles chambered in WSMs or other magnum cartridges "just in case they ever go hunting out west". These guys would mainly use the low pressure ammo.
I live in NC and many of my friends have never shot at an animal over 200 yards away. Some of them still have rifles chambered in WSMs or other magnum cartridges "just in case they ever go hunting out west". These guys would mainly use the low pressure ammo.
