New 7mm cartridge from Federal

[Trm82]

When AllTerra arms tested it the accuracy was not that great for there standards but the thing that was concerning was the primers were pushing out of the case slightly
They were not jumping up and down about it like Joseph Von Benedict and Ron Spomer were.
Federal must of paid them a bigger check haha

 

[Rosebud]

There will never be any brass cases, brass flows into the seams at that pressure. Why it's a steel case. One and done case.
Modern rifles can handle the pressure, they are fired with proof rounds prior to leaving the factory. High flame temp over time is what erodes the barrel lead. Without knowing what powder they are using, Its a wild guess.
I'm amending something, you may be able to reload it if they come out with brass cases, but not at that pressure.

 

[Huntaddict]

There will never be any brass cases, brass flows into the seams at that pressure. Why it's a steel case. One and done case.
Modern rifles can handle the pressure, they are fired with proof rounds prior to leaving the factory. High flame temp over time is what erodes the barrel lead. Without knowing what powder they are using, Its a wild guess.

I hear you, they are probably using a blended powder - which is common and often used to maximize FPS for marketing purposes.

 

[blksno]

Honest question-Why do you say they're not good for reloading? Federal's launch ad states that the case is reloadable.

Disclaimer-I have no interest in this cartridge, but it does interest me to see how disturbed some people get when a new product is announced, but they don't like it.

3-4 hypothetical reloads before failure isn't really what I call "Reloadable"

 

[Bill28]

A solution without a problem... Just more advertising hype to sell new stuff... This too shall pass....

I agree, my 2 28 Nosler's are working just fine and they're easy to reload. Now that I have plenty of reloading components and good brass life.

 

[yogibearmech]

Honest question-Why do you say they're not good for reloading? Federal's launch ad states that the case is reloadable.

Disclaimer-I have no interest in this cartridge, but it does interest me to see how disturbed some people get when a new product is announced, but they don't like it.

I would not say that people get disturbed when new things are released just tired of the lies and hype. They keep trying to reinvent the wheel. We have issues now keeping up with components much less them trying something else to draw from an already deprived market

 

[Rosebud]

Honest question-Why do you say they're not good for reloading? Federal's launch ad states that the case is reloadable.

Disclaimer-I have no interest in this cartridge, but it does interest me to see how disturbed some people get when a new product is announced, but they don't like it.

Steel cases are not very reloadable. Its possible, but getting one stuck in your die no matter what lube you use is almost a given. If a brass case comes out. Yes, loadable.

 

[Roughrice]

3-4 hypothetical reloads before failure isn't really what I call "Reloadable"

AND... I'd hate to be behind the rifle when the case fails @ 80,000 PSI !!

 

[WYO300RUM]

I'm going off of a weak memory of it but what I believe it was called 277 Fury ? It had a ceramic case ? I don't remember the details . Was it designed for military use ? Were the cases reloadable ? I wouldn't think so but what do I know ?
I can see a thin alloy metal being reloadable but probably not very many times at that pressure . Also would think it would wear dies.
As Trm82 said, with that kind of pressure are they crimping primers in ?
I'd like to see the velocity out of a 24-26 in. barrel but maybe thier powder "blend" which I agree with Huntaddict on could be designed to burn in short barrels and not give much increase in burn rate with longer barrels.
It's intriguing but I'd like to see how it's doing in a year or more from know. Did anybody notice what make the rifle was in the videos ?

 

[Philward]

Although I probably don't have an interest in acquiring one, the case they're using is intriguing. It isn't just a traditional steel case, but rather some kind of stainless alloy.

It doesn't look like ammunition will be overly expensive, but I would definitely think the reloading process will be more complex…at least the resizing step.

Regardless, the use of a different metallurgy for the case is interesting.

Probably just neck size only....

 

[jbur13]

Seekins is going the high pressure wave also. They introduced their new 3rd series of PH and another model a couple days ago. They're also stopping production on all models previous to this new generation. Pretty cool how they built the new bolt and receiver actually. All of them are capable of switch barrels now.
The case resides further into the barrel to reduce pressure on the case head and bolt. They actually state that the way things are moving are to high pressure rounds and shorter barrels. The thing I don't care for about Seekins, is that everything is proprietary(I think).
They've got a video on it now on YT

 

[WYO300RUM]

Maybe just me but I'm, maybe the word is proud that people and companies in the U.S.A. are intelligent enough and capable and to be allowed to invent and produce things freely in this country. Have you heard of anyone or company in Russia. China, North Korea, Iran or any other craphole country coming up with new cartridges, rifles, any guns, powders, etc. let alone trucks and cars or anything like that? Not that I know of. I get a kick out of all the new guns and cartridges. At least we can do it ! Some in this country prefer we don't. They lost times 3 .

Edit: not talking about military guns. Sporting guns , etc. in other countries.

 

[NotLongRange]

One thing I want to clarify on this discussion is they are not using the old "steel cartridge case".

They're using some kind of stainless alloy, so everyone's past experience with steel cartridge cases should be thrown out the window.

I don't know anything about the material properties of this alloy myself, but it certainly sounds like the ductility and toughness properties are different from the old steel cases.

When I get a case, I'll hit it with our PMI (positive material identification) gun and let you know what materials are involved.

 

[Jim’s Hunt]

Baskin Robins clover of the month. Doesn't appeal to my appetite