Need a ring recommendation

[ntsqd]

I bought a lapping kit that came with a torque wrench that I do not trust. When I do torque small screws I use my 1/4" drive beam scale torque wrench that I use for lots of other things. Easy to see when those are out of calibration, unlike any type of "clicker." Easy to re-calibrate them too!

That said, I went decades before ever using a torque wrench on scope rings. Mounted a lot of scopes during my time behind the counter, never had one come back. Most were Burris rings, but a few (thankfully only a few) were Weavers with the sheet metal top strap.

 

[JMW67]

those old weaver were tough to keep the scope straight but once they were straight and tight I never had a scope move I do not use them these days they are still a solid tough mount though just UGLY and not worth all the trouble

 

[ntsqd]

Yeah, they only moved when you were tightening the screws and never after that point. Unfortunately they always moved when tightening those screws and predicting how far it was going to move this time was the game. It was a tiresome game at that. I got so that I'd sell folks those rings if they insisted on them, but the shop would not do the install. Like you said, they weren't worth the trouble.

Buehler rings, OTOH, were even more work than the Weavers, but when you did finally get them sorted they were rock solid and a whole lot better looking thant he Weavers. Thankfully I only installed a couple sets of those.

 

[Overkill338]

Yeah, they only moved when you were tightening the screws and never after that point. Unfortunately they always moved when tightening those screws and predicting how far it was going to move this time was the game. It was a tiresome game at that. I got so that I'd sell folks those rings if they insisted on them, but the shop would not do the install. Like you said, they weren't worth the trouble.

Buehler rings, OTOH, were even more work than the Weavers, but when you did finally get them sorted they were rock solid and a whole lot better looking thant he Weavers. Thankfully I only installed a couple sets of those.

I never dealt with any of those. Sounds like I should be glad of that. LoL

 

[L.Sherm]

I really don't understand why everyone doesn't do this

Because I bed mine.

 

[ntsqd]

Buehler two piece rings had peel shims where the ring halves met like the original shim washers used to time AR15 flash hiders. Peel off shims one at a time to fit the rings to the scope. With determination and a lot of time it was possible to achieve a zero gap, tight fit on pretty much any scope.

Gun Crank Inventor Maynard Buehler Tests His Scope Mounts On Huge Rifles That Make Ordinary Magnums Look Like Pipsqueaks - Guns 01 1959

GUN FANS DRIVE out of their way to visit Maynard Buehler at Orinda, California. Maker of one of the smallest parts of a rifle, its safety, Buehler's attraction

www.bevfitchett.us

 

[Allthewatts]

Because I bed mine.

What do you bed with?

 

[L.Sherm]

If you mean bed with, I use J.B weld on rings and bases.
Devcon and Marine tec on stocks

 

[Allthewatts]

If you mean bed with, I use J.B weld on rings and bases.
Deacon and Marine tec on stocks

What happens when you change rifles or replace the scope? Sand out the JB weld?

 

[L.Sherm]

Yeah you could and skim bed again, its better than taking a chance of the scope in a bind.

 

[Overkill338]

Yeah you could and skim bed again, its better than taking a chance of the scope in a bind.

I should have tried that, but now I've swapped rings. I may give someone the Vortex copies to play with.

 

[FEENIX]

Man I have never seen rings slip that have been lapped and torqued correctly. Even the super cheep ones from E-bay. I really don't understand why everyone doesn't do this.

Because I never needed to lap any of my rings, and there are other means other than lapping to increase surface contact or securing the scope. For rings that do not use inserts or bedded, I tape similar to https://highpoweroptics.com/ringtrue-tape/. They sell them for ~$10 that is good for 3 scopes. I paid mine for $8.99 for 36 yards at Amazon.

 

[ntsqd]

What happens when you change rifles or replace the scope? Sand out the JB weld?

There are actually tools made to do very, very similar work. In the hands of a skilled craftsperson tolerances in the .0001's are not just possible, but reasonable.

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