I have been reading all the debates about this one is better than the other and I decided that the ladder test was the best so I loaded the ladder test charges and waited for the perfect day with no wind and waited and waited well it got here and off to the range I went. Shot all the charges at 200 yards and when I was done I was in the same place I was in before I started, During the testing there must have been some wind between 100-200 and I got nothing that I could use to determine the best load. So I went home and loaded up the charges for the OCW test went back to the range and shoot them at 100 yards and by the end of that session I knew my load. Now, I didn't start this thread to start an argument and I think ladder test is a great tool for someone with a perfect no wind shooting day and a gun that lays perfect every shot but, for the average guy I think OCW testing is the way to go.