i knew where this deer and another big buck for the last month i found them both at first light with 15 does and another spike buck. some other hunters scared the deer to the next canyon and they got the spike buck. i kept following them over 4 differant ridges and tryed to get ahead of them but they made it down to a ridge that was thick of trees. i sat there awhile and watched till i couldnt see them anymore and decided to go to the next hill that was on the middle side of those trees. they came out of the other side and over another ridge. when i got to the top there was four does which i knew wasnt the group and to my far far left was a group of 22 deer that wasnt them. i went up more on the ridge were they crossed over peaked over a saw a couple does got down watched all them come up the buck was the last one waited for him to stop used my pack as a back rest for my rifle he stoped tured and got him threw both lungs. saw him at 6:00am and shot him at 11:30am.