What are you wanting it to do for you? They use components you can find in other workout supplements. I can tell you they do work depending on what you are asking for it to do. The advantage to using these products is they give back to the hunting community if nothing more than in support. In case you don't watch the news these days we are severely in need of more companies like these guys(not supplements). I have used both. I like both. Most of the MTN Ops products have less sugar. Neither of them will replace a good healthy diet.