demarpaint
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Hi Brent,
Any pics of the Moose to post?
Frank D
Any pics of the Moose to post?
Frank D
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Brent
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I didn't take any pics of the moose the other night.... just never really thought to is all. If you mean good pics with the R2 held on them, well I didn't have a rest that would tolerate any movement that sticking the camera up to the ocular would cause.
I just pulled off the edge of the pavement a little, put the flashers on, opened up the passenger door and rolled down the window. I grabbed the rifle and layed it through the widow opening and balanced it in the mag well area is all. I had to shift it around to get it lined up and keep my mitts off it to keep it perfectly still to do the measuring part.... needless to say, it took a few seconds to realign after they took a step or moved any. Trying to stick my eye up to the scope without moving it or the truck was about all I could do in that situation. It's pretty difficult to get the camera lined up behind the scope perfectly to take a snapshot too, I had to zoom mine in to make it work out right. I'll try and figure something out to get some pics of them tonight... moose cooperting of course.
I just pulled off the edge of the pavement a little, put the flashers on, opened up the passenger door and rolled down the window. I grabbed the rifle and layed it through the widow opening and balanced it in the mag well area is all. I had to shift it around to get it lined up and keep my mitts off it to keep it perfectly still to do the measuring part.... needless to say, it took a few seconds to realign after they took a step or moved any. Trying to stick my eye up to the scope without moving it or the truck was about all I could do in that situation. It's pretty difficult to get the camera lined up behind the scope perfectly to take a snapshot too, I had to zoom mine in to make it work out right. I'll try and figure something out to get some pics of them tonight... moose cooperting of course.
demarpaint
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Brent,
Thanks any picture will do if they cooperate.
Frank D
Thanks any picture will do if they cooperate.
Frank D
Brent
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Here's one for now that I took the fall of 2000, I still google over it. Still in perfect full velvet, and all marble colored at that too. Wish I would have taken one while him and his twin were still alive too. My son killed him at 200 yards with his 308win off the hill from up above. His first moose.
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Brent
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Here's the pix I held off posting.
The first one was taken on the first target there. I figured it was 571 yards. (48"/8.4 lines * 100 = 571 yards) or 96"/16.8 MOA *100 = 571 yards. For some reason, in this pic it looks more like only 8.3 lines... crappy pix!
The second one was taken on the second target there. I figured 827 yards. (48"/5.8 lines * 100 = 827 yards) or 96"/11.6 MOA * 100 = 827 yards.
You can see the high shot with only a 20 yard miscalculation in range at just 800 yards.
At the range today I found my rifle to be .5" high at 100 yards which turned out to be zeroed at 165 yards and not 100 yards. This extra 1/2 MOA caused me to hit higher at all ranges shot that day and to conclude the BC was .530 instead of .495, I was mistaken on that one and it turned out that my 1.5" high groups at 300 yards with 2.5 MOA diealed in beared this out too. If your 100 yards zero is on the money, 300 yard zero will be too... provided you have accurate MV data and know that the BC is close. A slightly higher BC alone will not make it shoot 1.5" higher at 300 yards than it is called for, what will is being .5 MOA off in the 100 yard zero though. It always pays to stop at 300-400 yards before going way out!! Turns out, this accounted for me shooting 3-4" higher at the ranges I shot at... My potential group size at those ranges blew it out the rest of the way!
The first one was taken on the first target there. I figured it was 571 yards. (48"/8.4 lines * 100 = 571 yards) or 96"/16.8 MOA *100 = 571 yards. For some reason, in this pic it looks more like only 8.3 lines... crappy pix!
The second one was taken on the second target there. I figured 827 yards. (48"/5.8 lines * 100 = 827 yards) or 96"/11.6 MOA * 100 = 827 yards.
You can see the high shot with only a 20 yard miscalculation in range at just 800 yards.
At the range today I found my rifle to be .5" high at 100 yards which turned out to be zeroed at 165 yards and not 100 yards. This extra 1/2 MOA caused me to hit higher at all ranges shot that day and to conclude the BC was .530 instead of .495, I was mistaken on that one and it turned out that my 1.5" high groups at 300 yards with 2.5 MOA diealed in beared this out too. If your 100 yards zero is on the money, 300 yard zero will be too... provided you have accurate MV data and know that the BC is close. A slightly higher BC alone will not make it shoot 1.5" higher at 300 yards than it is called for, what will is being .5 MOA off in the 100 yard zero though. It always pays to stop at 300-400 yards before going way out!! Turns out, this accounted for me shooting 3-4" higher at the ranges I shot at... My potential group size at those ranges blew it out the rest of the way!
Brent
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First range; shot was top center of bull (#30) and the second range it was 10.25" above POA and 2.25" rt.
You may not be able to see which shot is which from the numbers below them, but the 570 yd shot hit the "paper" high there and the 807 yard shot is the one not marked "above" the target there. The other ones there and some more under the target were my shots at 1000 yards from earlier on.
Looking back over my notes;
570 yards:
Exbal predicted I'd be 4.1" low if using the 4th bar below the main crosshair.... I held the 4th bar (8 MOA up) on the top edge of the paper(8.5"x11") target and dialed 4.0 MOA in for the 12 mph 3 O'clock wind.
807 yards:
Exbal predicted I'd be 3.7" low if using the 8th bar below the main crosshair.... I held the 8th bar (16 MOA up) on the top edge of the target and dialed 2.5 MOA in for the 5 mph 3 O'clock wind.
Nothin serious to learn here, just a little exercise to learn some more on how well my one shot kills work with ranging with the R2 though.
[ 06-16-2003: Message edited by: Brent ]
You may not be able to see which shot is which from the numbers below them, but the 570 yd shot hit the "paper" high there and the 807 yard shot is the one not marked "above" the target there. The other ones there and some more under the target were my shots at 1000 yards from earlier on.
Looking back over my notes;
570 yards:
Exbal predicted I'd be 4.1" low if using the 4th bar below the main crosshair.... I held the 4th bar (8 MOA up) on the top edge of the paper(8.5"x11") target and dialed 4.0 MOA in for the 12 mph 3 O'clock wind.
807 yards:
Exbal predicted I'd be 3.7" low if using the 8th bar below the main crosshair.... I held the 8th bar (16 MOA up) on the top edge of the target and dialed 2.5 MOA in for the 5 mph 3 O'clock wind.
Nothin serious to learn here, just a little exercise to learn some more on how well my one shot kills work with ranging with the R2 though.
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