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Montana Wolf hunters!
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HARPERC
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I get being upset about access, but when the government owns up to 80% of the land in some states, that's your landlord.
The bulk of livestock damage still occurs on private ground.
The bulk of livestock damage still occurs on private ground.
I have noticed that in the area I hunt the deer and even the elk want to be around people. The feed in the hills is good it's not over grazed by any means. Just seems that when you get around mines or ranchers places the deer and elk want to hang around. The only thing I can come up with is protection they feel safer there. Just my opinion on what I have seen.
The Govt may be the landlord, but in many places the ranchers are closing trails that have traditionally been used for access.
With no legal easement, some of the ranchers keep large tracts of public land to themselves.
Personally, I'd like to see those trails kept open but I'd probably feel different if it was my land that they ran across.
Ranger Rick
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You're spot on 26Reload as ID F&G's wolf management program is a mess. Plus, ID F&G "Conservation" Officers are eager to cite hunters for misdemeanors on minor things!
I thought Idaho was doing ok? Where are they failing?
Montana FWP seems to think we need MORE wolves.
406muley
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Info on Montana FWP wanting more wolves? 406muley
Ranger Rick
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ID F&G is failing: 1. In eastern Idaho as Portneuf valley ranchers are given no limit shoot on sight permits and $100,000 losses. 2. SW Idaho as areas that I've hunted since 1980 are elk and deer barren. 3.Central Idaho where archery season and rifle elk seasons were both cut in half. 4. North Idaho - I've some about its herd losses, but I do know that N. Idaho has had multi-wolf tags longer than I have, PS Don't follow ID F&G propaganda, listen to the lono time residents.
I don't know if they've officially announced it, but it sounds like they are cutting the quotas near Yellowstone.
When they were shutting the season down when 2 wolves were taken, there is no way they were keeping up with the annual pup production but now they want to shut it as soon as one single wolf is shot?! How many wolf pups are born each year in those areas?
My guess is that since the wolf population is down in the Park, they want to bolster that but we all know that's not how it works. Wolf populations are down in the Park because of the natural predator/prey cycles, but we can't let facts muddy the water.
I get it that wolves supposedly bring in tourists, but trying to artificially bolster wolf numbers IN the Park by reducing the kill OUTSIDE the Park is just plain wrong. That extra wolf is just as likely to stay out of the Park than it is to become someones camera fodder.
406muley
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There's a balancing act in play with those wolves near the park. There's probably more people that travel there to view them than there is people who hunt them. Kill too many and the outrage goes up. 406muley
So what, let the tourist outrage go up.
Our F@G, comissioners, politicians need to grow a set
