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i own in 80 here in eastern montana, i would have O problem with someone corner crosing on the 2 legal sides ,if there was misuse of the area I would work on a little fencing project to guide people to the right crossing,,,
I am tired of the argument of cant find the corner, pin, ect, if the exact corner cant be found the landowner has no idea where there his private land is, if you dont know where your land is you cannot prosecute for tresspass, i have paid the surveyor, i know the exact location of corners, i dont have a public land corner problem, but if I did I would surely air on the public side,,,
should everyone give a little for the good of the public,,
if not keep every one off the landlocked land and just let it be,,,,
i understand this public ground as state land is supposed to generate income for schools,,
blm, forest service, not so much,,,
the money state land generates vs. the cost of maintaining, rules regulations and what not, i doubt there is much left over to give to the schools anyway,,,
i would have no rpoblem if EVERYONE was banned from these landlocked sections, let the land be what it is gonna be, let it raise wildlife or whatever,,,
when these parcels catch on fire why should public resource money be used to put out the fire, when the roads are bad why should public money be used to fix the road on these places that only a private landowner uses,,
i have personally seen govt agency installing culverts and maintaining these roads at different times makes no since to me,
I see pretty nice shooting range setup on the landlocked piece the rancher drives to all the time to shoot,,,
Where are the answers for these parcels to be made usable by all,
Why should a chosen few get to use these as if they own them,
why shouldnt the american prarie or some other organization compete for the bids on these places and pay double what the landowner pays, put a 6 ft tall 8 wire fence with no gates around them and keep everyone off,
Many people who enjoy the benefits off these parcels treat them as there own, THERE NOT< they are the publics,
Give me one good reason why the public should not be able to enjoy the use of said parcels,,,
Speaking of the Block Mangement deal, How many good parcels of land have been removed,,
How many will be removed in the future,, after the milk river land buy out, how many landowners will pull out of Block,
How many parcels are in block have virtually no game on them,,, I can show you a fair #,
block management is great, it has its flaws,,,
if every public parcel in the state had acces, could we do away with block and let the land owers lease there ground to outfitters,,,
landowners would still have a pay check, would there be enough land for the public to hunt, I dont know, Does the public have a right to hunt private land, no, kindness provides many opportunities,
maybe the offset in moneies from outfitters can make up for loss of grazing or farming on the public land,
i would pay 10x what I pay now to be able to use every parcel of public land in the state, if everyone paid this sum, how much money would be lost to the governments and schools,
every recreationist paying 100.00 per family per year for a permit to acces any public ground in the state would bring it lots of cash,,,
I realize I have an odd point of view, others do as well,, it may not be correct, we all need to realize there can be solutions for all, not solutions that benefit a few,,,,
this idea has been around forever, how has the situation gotten better for the public,, has it gotten worse for landowers,
if a landowner doesnt have enough energy to find his corners, fix his fences, post all his land so its clearly marked so its clear to see where trespass could take place, why should anyone be convicted of trespass,
Idaho has a much more comon sense approach to trespass laws, mark your land, farm it or irrigate it, if not, dont worry about people trespassing on your land, if the land is the actual thing that is so valuable a landower will take care to see any and all things can be done to prevent trespass,
QUOTE=Broz;770080]So Mike if they wanted to make a walk way across the corner of your back yard to access a lot with no access you would be ok with them using that corner of your private property for a traffic point?
Visualize an , x , you own the left and right corners. They need x amount of feet left and right each direction of your private property. You should just let them use it or give it to them?
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