comfisherman
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99 for 8oz.... what's that compare to coke, heroin or fentynal.... we're going to have to start finding black market suppliers of powder and start using the southern border and coyotes.
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GSRetrievers
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I can already see the fallout from counterfeit product.
Will need to have a test to verify how pure it is!
cohunt
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100 proof alcohol plus some powder mixed then burn ?
comfisherman
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Gotta do the test in a sweet polyester suit with Miami vice music playing in the background...
In all seriousness it highlights a kinda scary reality, we currently live in a country so gutted by offshoring and regulations that we cannot maintain production of necessary products for even a niche hobby...
In all seriousness it highlights a kinda scary reality, we currently live in a country so gutted by offshoring and regulations that we cannot maintain production of necessary products for even a niche hobby...
Rick Richard
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Now they make them with an extra wheel.
Crockett12
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Back during Bill Clinton's Presidency we had a primer shortage -- couldn't find any primers anywhere -- not on retail shelves or online -- anywhere! I figured the same could happen to any of our other reloading components any time a Dem President would try & implement the next "gun control" scheme! So I loaded up on any powders & brass I would need and when primers eventually came back, I bought bricks of any type of primer I would ever need! I also bought a Corbin press and Corbin bullet dies for the 3 calibers I was normally shooting at the time, as well as the bullet jackets and lead wire for those calibers! I had to spend a lot of money -- especially on the Corbin equipment as the dies/caliber were $800.00 each! However, shortages have never stopped me from range time or shooting ever since! Now it's also the constant wars that have caused powder shortages -- because handloaders aren't a priority for the powder companies! The inflation over the past 4 years have driven up the cost of powder, primers, bullets and everything else from milk to eggs! We'll start to see a better economy with the policies of the new President but it won't last -- so buy while you can -- before there isn't any!
FireFlyFishing
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Greatgrandad
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I know prices are relatively high and some things are hard to obtain, but can you imagine the day when many of our current "commercially" available items can no longer be had? Imagine the private prices being asked then? During the Obama admin, I raised this same question to a few friends, and then, most no one could even imagine what we have and are experiencing these last 4 years.
We could be discussing the best long range crossbows.........
I think I have seen a couple of dystopian movies where ammo was nearly priceless.
edit: While I was born shortly after, I remember the stories my parents and grand-parents told about the shortages during WW II, and how so many things could not be found for the farm and home. The coupon books and rationing. And then my later reading about how Speer, RCBS and others began due to the shortages for the war. My grandfather used to talk about the severe ammo shortage in our area while my father was away in the war, and how hunting with 22's and single shot shotguns were often limited to 1-2 rounds per trip or day. A lot of people began making various wooden traps and using snares for food.
We could be discussing the best long range crossbows.........
I think I have seen a couple of dystopian movies where ammo was nearly priceless.
edit: While I was born shortly after, I remember the stories my parents and grand-parents told about the shortages during WW II, and how so many things could not be found for the farm and home. The coupon books and rationing. And then my later reading about how Speer, RCBS and others began due to the shortages for the war. My grandfather used to talk about the severe ammo shortage in our area while my father was away in the war, and how hunting with 22's and single shot shotguns were often limited to 1-2 rounds per trip or day. A lot of people began making various wooden traps and using snares for food.
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ENCORE
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I've always made sure I had more than enough primers. At least LRMP's are showing up more often now.
I traded 1,000 Federal 209A primers for 3 10oz bottles of BH209 to a small sports shop. He had the bottles hidden away and during the course of the conversation, I mentioned I had an amount of Fed 209A's.
I traded 1,000 Federal 209A primers for 3 10oz bottles of BH209 to a small sports shop. He had the bottles hidden away and during the course of the conversation, I mentioned I had an amount of Fed 209A's.
Greatgrandad
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I always considered primers as the weak point in reloading and shooting, so like you, I stored a fairly large supply. Purchased a fair number of 5,000 ct sleeves, several 1,000 ct shotgun primer bricks, and a couple of thousand #11 caps. I can always substitute various powders to make something reasonably go bang or even make a certain amount of BP if ever needed.
