Montucky Roamer
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215 berger absolutely works on deer at all ranges. Love it. Only reason I'd try a 124 hammer at warp speed is for fun and longer point and shoot range. MPBR I guess..
Looking for a new hunting bullet... Which one!??!
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AkBirder300
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Thank you, Appreciate that intel. I might look into getting mine cut for the Wyatt's box so I can try it. Have that set up on my 6.5 PRC and like it a lot.
You don't mention what caliber you are shootig. 190 gr bullets are those that one might consider for large elk, moose, bison or bear of any size or ilk. If you are using them on deer and thinking that the deer should drop on contact think again. 190s might not expand on deer size animals since there is not enough skin and bone to start expansion. Do not ever use bullets that are that heavy unless the game requires it. If you do you will always be disappointed in bullet performance.
I shoot regularly at 500-1000 yards. I'm an "middle ager" and that used to be long range back in the day.
I personally do not shoot at animals over 400 yards.
I came to the realization of exactly what you said. Not the best bullet for the job.
My bigger problem is that the 168's did not perform well on deer in my 308's either.
Either way I am going away from the ABLR's anyway.
Someone was interested in the bullets and asked me to PM them. I'm going to need to figure out how first.
Muddinmetal
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Either Swift option or Federal Terminal Ascents will never let you down. Copper is also an option
treeman59
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I would go with the tipped tsx. They work down to 1600 fps velocity . Good wound channel , good penetration. My $.02
treeman59
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P.s. they like a good jump to the rifling .050-.100"
He states he's shooting a 300 WSM!
Hunterjones
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Standard 180 Gr Accubond at about 3000 FPS should resoundingly kill anything you want to with your 300 WSM
LRhunter13
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I've put 1000s of Berger 215s through multiple 300rums around the 2900fps mark. Although the MV is a little slow for a RUM it should be very comparable to the MV you would achieve with your WsM. I've personally used this bullet to take many bull elk, cow elk, mule deer and antelope. These animals were all ranging from 260-759 yards, one mule deer buck at just over 100yds. I've also taken many elk/deer using 30cal 180gr partitions and 212 eld-x. Bottom line in my particular experience has been the Berger 215s produce great terminal results when placed where they need to go, they have a great BC (.691G1) helping with extended range and they have been liked by every rifle I've run them in. The eld-x doesn't seem to produce the same constant accuracy IME but it has provided good terminal performance at the 300-400 range. Partitions provided great terminal performance at closer ranges but it doesn't have the extended range performance due to the lower BC. (.474G1)
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I respectfully disagree with your generalization. I harvested many antelope and with 215 Berger out of my .300 WSM without disappointment.
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Western4444
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Lots of options, most important is bullet placement. For deer 500 yards or less, I like the 165 Sierra Game King HPBT. It is very accurate, and is consistent out to that yardage. Five years in a row, my son had one shot kill on all of his bucks. We just got back from our Wisconsin hunt. My buck dropped immediately, neck shot. My sons buck ran 5 yards and dropped with a heart shot. I like its crossed tip, it opens constantly at all yardages. In discussing with Sierra, they told me they developed this bullet specifically for the 300 Win Mag.
Agree!
This thread has gone way beyond where it should've. Moving on! The OP has gone silent today so let's give him a chance to reply. Attn: Pie holes, shhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
