Look at these 2 bullets. Which one do you think has the higher BC?

[AZShooter]

The classic hunter IS a hybrid

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/09/berger-releases-saami-compliant-classic-hunting-hybrids/

 

[Michael Eichele]

I realize Berger states that the classic hunters sport a shorter 'hybrid' nose but I'm failing to see where there is a tradition between the tangent and secant ogives. A TRUE hybrid starts out as a tangent and transitions to a secant. Hence my confusion. Nomenclature sucks

 

[AZShooter]

At least it acts like a hybrid. The few classics I have loaded didn't have issues with the distance to rifling just like those beautiful hybrid target versions.

 

[Michael Eichele]

That's good to hear. I'm having some trouble with the VLDs and am looking for an alternative. This might be a good alternative.

Can't wait to give them a test run. The 168 amaxs have done well, hopefully the classic will do just as good. With its higher BC it may be a great alternative.

 

[Steyr Luxus]

I would say the one on the right as it appears to be more streamline and therefore create less drag.

 

[Kennibear]

Secant Ogives, if memory serves, perform better at hypersonic velocity and Tangent/ Hybrid ogives with the more pronounced curvature do better at Transonic/ subsonic velocities. The longer boat tail of the Hunter takes back some of the bearing length. Do we want to start a discussion on Hypersonic Laminar Boundary Flow? Probably not.

I would guess that up close the VLD is higher and way out there the Hunter is better. And in the middle they are probably a wash. Of course to test that would require an extensive range session and some capital expenditures on components....


Honey!!! I'm headed to the range tomorrow! Be there all day...........

KB

 

[AKGuide]

I'd say the one on the left has the higher BC.

Reuben

 

[Michael Eichele]

I just find it interesting the the 7mm Berger 168 vld versus classic hunters show similar designs as the 30 cal yet with the 7mm, the vld is advertised as being higher.

 

[elkaholic]

I assume that the answer has already been posted but I went right to the end to post. The bullet on the left would "appear" to be the highest so I assume it isn't It all depends on what you can't see! The jacket and core material and thickness, etc. i.e. if one was a copper mono "which it isn't" it would be much different......Rich

 

[sendero72]

So what's the purpose of the quote by Jeff ??

 

[Michael Eichele]

So what's the purpose of the quote by Jeff ??

We're of the opinion that using a 168 in a 300 win mag for a long range rig is a waste of time.

 

[elkaholic]

We're of the opinion that using a 168 in a 300 win mag for a long range rig is a waste of time.

I would ditto that! Might be a good choice for a .308W in a 178......Rich

 

[tbrice23]

I was just investigating 130gr .270 vld vs classic hybrid. The vld=.452. Hybrid=.479.

BUT the performance of vld in 3 other calibers has been so good I kind of hate to chance risking DRT kills for slightly better BC.

 

[Beng]

I just find it interesting the the 7mm Berger 168 vld versus classic hunters show similar designs as the 30 cal yet with the 7mm, the vld is advertised as being higher.

Always look at the boat tail first. The base drag makes up 50-60% of overall drag at supersonic velcities.
The 7mm 168gr VLD has a pretty long boat tail of .77 cal at a good angle of 8.4°.
Except for the angle, the hybrid couldn't do better and the difference between 7° and 8.4° is not that big, looking at McCoy's tables.