Jeffrey Van Zandt
Well-Known Member
the long range club did one up here went good most guns we ok anything you hunt with was good to go. shooting from 4 wheelers off of track rig tops, ect
Scott Satterlee was talking about something very similar to this with Frank Galli and sounds like it's already a thing.So I have been thinking about this for a little while and I have taken some time to put my idea into words. Before I start, I just want to say this is kind of a big thing to try and start up and I'm not sure how I could even go about this, but I figured I'd ask you guys about it first.
Here it is. I want to do a hunting style competition that is as close to real life scenarios as you could have while in a controlled environment. You will be limited on rifle weight, must range your targets, there will be a power factor involved, and the targets will be life size wooden silhouettes with steel targets for the vitals (except on coyotes and woodchucks.) I'll outline the details down below. My end goal would be to use this match to better our abilities as hunters and everyone would learn and benefit from it.
Targets will be from 50 yards to 1000+ yards. You will shoot standing, sitting, prone, and off natural objects like logs, stumps, and rocks. You don't have to be able to shoot long range to hit targets at this match. Imagine a 3D archery course but using a hunting rifle. You will not be given any ranges to the targets and the spotter can only tell you your impacts and will not be allowed to give you windage or elevation corrections or tell you where the targets are. This is similar to NRL Hunter but with the emphasis being on actual silhouettes and actual vital sized steel plates. Less PRS style shooting and more real world scenarios. I wouldn't want this to be a gear/equipment/money race. I want the average guy to be able to have the chance to be competitive without spending thousands on gadgets and gear. Please let me know what you think and what you would add, change, or want to see. Thanks!
3x Elk Targets
5x Deer Targets
3x Pronghorn Targets
3x Bear Targets
3x Coyote Targets
2x Bison Targets
5x Woodchuck Bonus Targets
24 Total Targets
101 total possible points
1st round hit = 3 points
2nd round hit = 1 point
Bonus Targets one shot only hit = 5 points
Rifle, rear bag, and front rest/bipod must weight less than 15lbs combined
Hunter Class must be above
Power Factor Weight x Velocity = 425,000
Example: 156 Berger x 2750fps = 429,000
Varmint Class
Any power factor under 425,000
I never did a match, but from what I've seen I couldn't agree more. It's much akin to IDPA. There are skills you can gain from the match, but most of the stuff would get you killed in "real life".While PRS is suppose to be "tactical" games, there are things that are real world, and things that are not.
Hunter Class must be above
Power Factor Weight x Velocity = 425,000
Example: 156 Berger x 2750fps = 429,000
Varmint Class
Any power factor under 425,000
No reason the creedmoor shouldn't be in the varmint class, It is a 22-250 sized case afterall. the 270 and the 280 both fit inside the power factor required if shooting heavy for caliber long range capable bullets.Hello Jud96 ,
Your Hunter Class power factor of 425,000 would effectively rule out some very popular cartridges .
Examples , just 3 :
.270 Winchester , classic Jack O'Connor load , 3100 fps x 130 gr = 403,000
The BELOVED 6.5CM , would have to drive a 140 gr bullet x 3036 fps = 425,040
NOT HAPPENING in realistic scenario.
.280 Remington , factory spec ammo , 3000 fps x 140 gr = 420,000
You might need to revise the Hunter Class power factor .
DMP25-06
No one likes 6.5 CM. 270 driving a 150 at 2900 would easily meet that PF and would be better for the longer shots. A 280 pushing a 165 at 2700 would also meet and exceed the PF.Hello Jud96 ,
Your Hunter Class power factor of 425,000 would effectively rule out some very popular cartridges .
Examples , just 3 :
.270 Winchester , classic Jack O'Connor load , 3100 fps x 130 gr = 403,000
The BELOVED 6.5CM , would have to drive a 140 gr bullet x 3036 fps = 425,040
NOT HAPPENING in realistic scenario.
.280 Remington , factory spec ammo , 3000 fps x 140 gr = 420,000
You might need to revise the Hunter Class power factor .
DMP25-06