Loading at the range

Thanks Gary, that would seem to fit my need also. I have an idea about a small box with a sliding plexiglass door to put digital scale in. It could be mounted permanent to the bench also.
A small bench can be made pretty cheaply also. Do not know what to do about my press yet as i have a co-ax and rock chucker. Both would be heavy for a lightweight bench. Aside from your press, any thoughts? Not many options out there. Would be nice if the RCBS team would read this and come up with a nice compact ,reliable setup just for range use. Wishful thinking on my part. Thanks for the response. If i come up with the perfect setup i'll post. ... SEMPER FI .... SARGESNIPER

actually the Forster doesn't need as heavy a bench as the Rockchucker. It's all in the way the forces are transferred to the press mounting plate. They just work 180 degrees from each other. Forster claims you can get by with 3/4" plywood, but I'd at least go with 1" with two ten gauge plates between the wood and bolts. On the otherhand my brother inlaw uses the smallest Black & Decker Workmate, and a Lee cast iron press. He has a new Forster, but don't know if he's tried it out yet on the workmate. Should work just fine. Larry bought a maple bench top at Menards, and had a chunk left over. That's what he uses on the work mate. There's a center cleat that he clamps down with the sliding jaws. The cleat is held in place to the top by about ten wood screws. He then installed several metal thread inserts in the top for his brackets.

Sinclair and Harrell both sell a small press that probably would work well. But if all your doing is neck sizing and seating, then I wouldn't waste a dime on either one. The arbor press will do a better job anyway. My whole reloading system at the range takes up about 12" by 20" on the bench top I shoot off of. I do have a sheet of Masonite that I use ontop of concrete bench tops. But even then only use it a few times a year. I made a couple different powder measure mounts over the years, and really either would work well. The first was simply a piece of round tubing welded to a couple flat plates. The other one was built from extruded aluminum I found in the junk pile. I simply bolted all of it together, and it's height adjustable.
gary
 
actually the Forster doesn't need as heavy a bench as the Rockchucker. It's all in the way the forces are transferred to the press mounting plate. They just work 180 degrees from each other. Forster claims you can get by with 3/4" plywood, but I'd at least go with 1" with two ten gauge plates between the wood and bolts. On the otherhand my brother inlaw uses the smallest Black & Decker Workmate, and a Lee cast iron press. He has a new Forster, but don't know if he's tried it out yet on the workmate. Should work just fine. Larry bought a maple bench top at Menards, and had a chunk left over. That's what he uses on the work mate. There's a center cleat that he clamps down with the sliding jaws. The cleat is held in place to the top by about ten wood screws. He then installed several metal thread inserts in the top for his brackets.

Sinclair and Harrell both sell a small press that probably would work well. But if all your doing is neck sizing and seating, then I wouldn't waste a dime on either one. The arbor press will do a better job anyway. My whole reloading system at the range takes up about 12" by 20" on the bench top I shoot off of. I do have a sheet of Masonite that I use ontop of concrete bench tops. But even then only use it a few times a year. I made a couple different powder measure mounts over the years, and really either would work well. The first was simply a piece of round tubing welded to a couple flat plates. The other one was built from extruded aluminum I found in the junk pile. I simply bolted all of it together, and it's height adjustable.
gary

I like the simplicity and lightness of it. Some of these i looked at look good but i would have a problem with loading in the back of my PU. I am not a teen anymore and have had my lower left lobe of the lung removed (agent orange ) about 8 years ago so i have a breathing problem when i exert myself. So i need light and easy setup of everything. ..... SEMPER FI ...SARGESNIPER
 
I like the simplicity and lightness of it. Some of these i looked at look good but i would have a problem with loading in the back of my PU. I am not a teen anymore and have had my lower left lobe of the lung removed (agent orange ) about 8 years ago so i have a breathing problem when i exert myself. So i need light and easy setup of everything. ..... SEMPER FI ...SARGESNIPER


First of all; Welcome Home Brother!"


That's what I like best about the big cigar box, when it comes to reloading at the range. I glued in some brackets here and there to hold items in place. I wish the box was about 18"x14"x12" tall with a removable tray that was about three inches deep. The main issue with the arbor press and Wilson dies is that your not going to be doing any full length sizing at the range. One of these days I'll tackle that issue as well. Now for a small box to put the scale in, just go to one of the better cigar stores. They have all sorts of boxes to fit your needs in there. Then for a clear top, goto a hobby shop and buy a piece of plastic sheet and cut it to fit. Then cut a hole in the top for your funnel or trickler. The BBK I use is fairly flat and low in profile, so you get by with murder. My whole box loaded might weigh ten pounds max.

Sarge, welcome to my world! I was first hit with Agent Orange a few klicks south of Chu Lai in the later stages of Tet in 68. They said it was bug killer (exact words when we asked). Then a few months later out in the Que Son Valley. More bug killer! Then out at Thien Phouc they really sprayed the place in August of 68. More bug killer! Only two days later everything was dead or dying. Two weeks later 22 of us had these festering sores that were doubling in size every two or three days. The medics had no idea what to do, and a line outfit can't loose 22 guys at the sametime. They flew out two doctors and some nurses (first round eyed women we'd seen in months). They left a few hours later and said they'd be back. They showed up a couple days later with three civilian doctors and even more nurses. By now the one on my leg is about the size of a tennis ball and really looking nasty. The divided us up into about five or six groups and treated each group differently trying to find a solution. They used a veterinary medicine on me that they actually put with a putty knife. The doctors wanted all of us to goto Japan or back to the states, but you already know that answer! So anyway it cleared up, but never left. Forty three years later, it knocked on my door again. They pumped massive amounts of steroids in me and it looked like I caught this in time, but had no idea about the link. The specialists that was treating me found this place on my leg that was about a half inch away from where the new infection started. I told him about August 1968. He simply muttered the words "anti defoliant", and started writing a lot of stuff in my files. He then said to keep a daily check on the spots where it started from, and he expected to be seeing me again. Three years later it knocked on my door again, but this time in spades. By now I own the Government, and at least they have a starting point instead of chasing their tail for forty years. I call my doctor, and he sends me strait to the specialist. It was new doctor out on Indiana University, and she has no idea where to start, but calls in two other specialists. By the end of the day I have five working on me. The last guy was an older guy, and he's looking my legs over and chest (by now it's from my chin to my ankles). Finds this place near my ankles that feels funny and like there's nothing under the skin. Asked me about it and I told him about the bug killer in August 68. Then he asked me exactly where the current infect started down there. About three quarter inch from the Agent Orange scars. He said they were the same infection right upfront. He said we got to get ahead of the spread of the infection or I'm toast! Now I scared. He puts me back on Prednisone again, but eight times the dosage! Plus an antibiotic that was brutal. Least it stopped growing, but after two months it was about to kill me. Then he takes me off that stuff and puts me on Cyclosporine and two other steroids. There was fourth, but we learned I couldn't handle it. After about five weeks we see little progress and in some ways I'm getting worse. The older guy became the team leader and he says stop the madness! No more steroids! We're killing him. But the growth had stopped. By now I'm swollen all over, and as red as a beet. Brings a plastic surgeon to the team, and he prescribes this deep moisturizing cream that women would sell their virginity for! Really helped a lot, but the infection is still there. They have a conference call with several off site doctors and came to the conclusion that when they gave me the massive doses of Prednisone it went over the top and my body developed an intolerance to it (like an allergy). Then they have a couple more chats, and decide it's time to try a class c steroid or as he called it a designer drug. He prescribes a thirty day supply with a forty minute lecture on being very careful with the stuff. It was like eating candy compared to all the others, and within 48 hours I could see a serious difference. This stuff is seriously kicking AG's *** big time. The doctor calls me every other day at the house to make sure I'm OK, and said he's writing another prescription and having it mailed with some others that are for another issue they found during a blood draw. They show up right before Memorial day, but there's no steroid in there. I thought the hospital would no have their clinics open so I waited till Tuesday to get in touch with them. The doctor I would normally see was on vacation that week, and the put me with a new guy and he told the nurse to get me in there asap. I went in the next day, and told them I was out of the steroid and the infection was moving very fast again. He said their tracking records show that it was mailed out ten days prior, and I should have got it a week ago (been four days with out it). He calls down to the pharmacy and has the guy do a new prescription asap. I take the stuff in the hospital as it was that bad. There's only four places in Indiana that even carry the stuff, and 95% of the doctors can't even prescribe it. I get home and stop by the mail box and the steroid is in there (took nine days to move it twelve miles). I did two more supplies of the stuff, and I'm now off it for good.

The doctor feels that with all these steroids I've been doing at massive doses, that I've now created some allergies to boot. Tuesday I start those tests. I'm ready for this to end! But what I'd really like to do is to kill the head on Monsanto!
gary
 
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First of all; Welcome Home Brother!"


That's what I like best about the big cigar box, when it comes to reloading at the range. I glued in some brackets here and there to hold items in place. I wish the box was about 18"x14"x12" tall with a removable tray that was about three inches deep. The main issue with the arbor press and Wilson dies is that your not going to be doing any full length sizing at the range. One of these days I'll tackle that issue as well. Now for a small box to put the scale in, just go to one of the better cigar stores. They have all sorts of boxes to fit your needs in there. Then for a clear top, goto a hobby shop and buy a piece of plastic sheet and cut it to fit. Then cut a hole in the top for your funnel or trickler. The BBK I use is fairly flat and low in profile, so you get by with murder. My whole box loaded might weigh ten pounds max.

Sarge, welcome to my world! I was first hit with Agent Orange a few klicks south of Chu Lai in the later stages of Tet in 68. They said it was bug killer (exact words when we asked). Then a few months later out in the Que Son Valley. More bug killer! Then out at Thien Phouc they really sprayed the place in August of 68. More bug killer! Only two days later everything was dead or dying. Two weeks later 22 of us had these festering sores that were doubling in size every two or three days. The medics had no idea what to do, and a line outfit can't loose 22 guys at the sametime. They flew out two doctors and some nurses (first round eyed women we'd seen in months). They left a few hours later and said they'd be back. They showed up a couple days later with three civilian doctors and even more nurses. By now the one on my leg is about the size of a tennis ball and really looking nasty. The divided us up into about five or six groups and treated each group differently trying to find a solution. They used a veterinary medicine on me that they actually put with a putty knife. The doctors wanted all of us to goto Japan or back to the states, but you already know that answer! So anyway it cleared up, but never left. Forty three years later, it knocked on my door again. They pumped massive amounts of steroids in me and it looked like I caught this in time, but had no idea about the link. The specialists that was treating me found this place on my leg that was about a half inch away from where the new infection started. I told him about August 1968. He simply muttered the words "anti defoliant", and started writing a lot of stuff in my files. He then said to keep a daily check on the spots where it started from, and he expected to be seeing me again. Three years later it knocked on my door again, but this time in spades. By now I own the Government, and at least they have a starting point instead of chasing their tail for forty years. I call my doctor, and he sends me strait to the specialist. It was new doctor out on Indiana University, and she has no idea where to start, but calls in two other specialists. By the end of the day I have five working on me. The last guy was an older guy, and he's looking my legs over and chest (by now it's from my chin to my ankles). Finds this place near my ankles that feels funny and like there's nothing under the skin. Asked me about it and I told him about the bug killer in August 68. Then he asked me exactly where the current infect started down there. About three quarter inch from the Agent Orange scars. He said they were the same infection right upfront. He said we got to get ahead of the spread of the infection or I'm toast! Now I scared. He puts me back on Prednisone again, but eight times the dosage! Plus an antibiotic that was brutal. Least it stopped growing, but after two months it was about to kill me. Then he takes me off that stuff and puts me on Cyclosporine and two other steroids. There was fourth, but we learned I couldn't handle it. After about five weeks we see little progress and in some ways I'm getting worse. The older guy became the team leader and he says stop the madness! No more steroids! We're killing him. But the growth had stopped. By now I'm swollen all over, and as red as a beet. Brings a plastic surgeon to the team, and he prescribes this deep moisturizing cream that women would sell their virginity for! Really helped a lot, but the infection is still there. They have a conference call with several off site doctors and came to the conclusion that when they gave me the massive doses of Prednisone it went over the top and my body developed an intolerance to it (like an allergy). Then they have a couple more chats, and decide it's time to try a class c steroid or as he called it a designer drug. He prescribes a thirty day supply with a forty minute lecture on being very careful with the stuff. It was like eating candy compared to all the others, and within 48 hours I could see a serious difference. This stuff is seriously kicking AG's *** big time. The doctor calls me every other day at the house to make sure I'm OK, and said he's writing another prescription and having it mailed with some others that are for another issue they found during a blood draw. They show up right before Memorial day, but there's no steroid in there. I thought the hospital would no have their clinics open so I waited till Tuesday to get in touch with them. The doctor I would normally see was on vacation that week, and the put me with a new guy and he told the nurse to get me in there asap. I went in the next day, and told them I was out of the steroid and the infection was moving very fast again. He said their tracking records show that it was mailed out ten days prior, and I should have got it a week ago (been four days with out it). He calls down to the pharmacy and has the guy do a new prescription asap. I take the stuff in the hospital as it was that bad. There's only four places in Indiana that even carry the stuff, and 95% of the doctors can't even prescribe it. I get home and stop by the mail box and the steroid is in there (took nine days to move it twelve miles). I did two more supplies of the stuff, and I'm now off it for good.

The doctor feels that with all these steroids I've been doing at massive doses, that I've now created some allergies to boot. Tuesday I start those tests. I'm ready for this to end! But what I'd really like to do is to kill the head on Monsanto!
gary

Gary, glad to hear from some one who also is affected by this stuff. The Gov't. wouldn't let on that they knew about the risk to human life. Only after a lot of us died did they fess up. Anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head in the sand. I do hope that your condition only gets better.
Send me a PM with your email add. I'll explain why I want it when you do. Too many of us have gone by the way-side without really knowing the truth. SEMPER FI ... SARGESNIPER ( RVN 66-67 )
 
"Anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head in the sand."

I disagree, anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head up their *****. Need proof? Did you see where Hilary Clinton said she would not be able to run for the presidency in 2016 because they found a brain tumor after a recent colonoscopy.
 
"Anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head in the sand."

I disagree, anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head up their *****. Need proof? Did you see where Hilary Clinton said she would not be able to run for the presidency in 2016 because they found a brain tumor after a recent colonoscopy.

I was being nice with "head in the sand." SEMPER FI SARGESNIPER
 
Gary, glad to hear from some one who also is affected by this stuff. The Gov't. wouldn't let on that they knew about the risk to human life. Only after a lot of us died did they fess up. Anyone that puts trust in the Gov't has their head in the sand. I do hope that your condition only gets better.
Send me a PM with your email add. I'll explain why I want it when you do. Too many of us have gone by the way-side without really knowing the truth. SEMPER FI ... SARGESNIPER ( RVN 66-67 )

out of my squad there are three or four of us alive. Not positive about the fourth, but last I heard he was still out there. I was the only one hit with the spray, as the others were in a bunker complex. Plus it could have been the time I got hit with it down on Gator. And who knows how many places I visited that had been sprayed before I showed up.

I have six children (all adults), and nine grandchildren. Four of the six kids had something wrong with them at birth. Thankfully it was minor in two of them. One was born sterile, and the other had several issues. He's blind in one eye, but otherwise healthy. Of my grandchildren, four were preemies, and there were many issues in their early childhood. All are OK now. Just too many cases here to be a rare event! I might add here that the fifth had two operations on her before she was 19 years old.

The VFW and the DAV seem to be the ones ontop of the data. Their data is constantly evolving by the week, and one needs to stay ontop of it. It scares the crap out of me! Half the Vietnam vets will have diabetes before they are 62! Guess what? There's a direct link to Agent Orange. A list of cancers that is close to thirty last I heard. The NVA could have began to kill this many of us if they really wanted to!

Where were you based out of? I hit Chu Lai on the tenth of December 1967, and was sent down to Gator (Hardrock 59er for you Marines). After Tet we did several big ops south of Quang Ngai. Did do some stuff out towards Kam Duc, but that was pretty much a broken op. Most of my extracurricular activities were in the Que Son Valley and out on the Lao Border. Got as far north as five klicks south of the Ashau Valley for an OP with the 101st, but it was suspended right as it started. We did put a hundred rounds or so in there. Got beat up pretty good in June out on the border, and refitted out at A102 near the Hiep Duc Ridge line. We kept that place as a base camp till I rotated out of there. Yet did OP's all over the place from there. The Ridge was an extremely nasty place to gain an education in the game of mortal combat. I well remember shooting WP with one second on a time fuse and the lowest powder charge out there many times. They just were not very friendly out there!

Hotter than hades in the Que Son Valley this afternoon!
gary
 
I was being nice with "head in the sand." SEMPER FI SARGESNIPER

speaking of heads in proper places!!<g>

I think I'm ready for some kind of "master shooter award"! I hit Jane Fonda's right eyeball for the 1068th time without a miss (urinal target) last night!! I'm so good at it, I can do it with my eyes closed.

gary
 
out of my squad there are three or four of us alive. Not positive about the fourth, but last I heard he was still out there. I was the only one hit with the spray, as the others were in a bunker complex. Plus it could have been the time I got hit with it down on Gator. And who knows how many places I visited that had been sprayed before I showed up.

I have six children (all adults), and nine grandchildren. Four of the six kids had something wrong with them at birth. Thankfully it was minor in two of them. One was born sterile, and the other had several issues. He's blind in one eye, but otherwise healthy. Of my grandchildren, four were preemies, and there were many issues in their early childhood. All are OK now. Just too many cases here to be a rare event! I might add here that the fifth had two operations on her before she was 19 years old.

The VFW and the DAV seem to be the ones ontop of the data. Their data is constantly evolving by the week, and one needs to stay ontop of it. It scares the crap out of me! Half the Vietnam vets will have diabetes before they are 62! Guess what? There's a direct link to Agent Orange. A list of cancers that is close to thirty last I heard. The NVA could have began to kill this many of us if they really wanted to!

Where were you based out of? I hit Chu Lai on the tenth of December 1967, and was sent down to Gator (Hardrock 59er for you Marines). After Tet we did several big ops south of Quang Ngai. Did do some stuff out towards Kam Duc, but that was pretty much a broken op. Most of my extracurricular activities were in the Que Son Valley and out on the Lao Border. Got as far north as five klicks south of the Ashau Valley for an OP with the 101st, but it was suspended right as it started. We did put a hundred rounds or so in there. Got beat up pretty good in June out on the border, and refitted out at A102 near the Hiep Duc Ridge line. We kept that place as a base camp till I rotated out of there. Yet did OP's all over the place from there. The Ridge was an extremely nasty place to gain an education in the game of mortal combat. I well remember shooting WP with one second on a time fuse and the lowest powder charge out there many times. They just were not very friendly out there!

Hotter than hades in the Que Son Valley this afternoon!
gary
Gary,such a shame that your children are affected also. Hope you have contacted the right people about this. The Gov't needs to be held accountable for withholding the info and their denial about AO.
My duties started west of DaNang and ended at the Rockpile just Northwest of Dong Ha. My enlistment was near ending also. I was discharged in mid March 1967. I returned to my home in Louisiana and I am still here. I have two children and three grandchildren. None of them seem to have any major issues. I am happy for them as it does concern me. I on the other hand was not so lucky. Had Lung cancer 8 years ago and had surgery,chemo,and radiation. Now I just learned I have Prostate cancer. Have not decided which way I will go as far as treatment goes yet. This stuff is bad for everything it contacts. Sooner or later it will KILL. SEMPER FI SARGESNIPER
 
Gary,such a shame that your children are affected also. Hope you have contacted the right people about this. The Gov't needs to be held accountable for withholding the info and their denial about AO.
My duties started west of DaNang and ended at the Rockpile just Northwest of Dong Ha. My enlistment was near ending also. I was discharged in mid March 1967. I returned to my home in Louisiana and I am still here. I have two children and three grandchildren. None of them seem to have any major issues. I am happy for them as it does concern me. I on the other hand was not so lucky. Had Lung cancer 8 years ago and had surgery,chemo,and radiation. Now I just learned I have Prostate cancer. Have not decided which way I will go as far as treatment goes yet. This stuff is bad for everything it contacts. Sooner or later it will KILL. SEMPER FI SARGESNIPER

Rockpile! I know that place even though I never got up there. I was trained on a 175mm gun, and my orders were cut to send me up near Camp Carrol. It was me and a half dozen others, and they tossed the orders in the garbage can. They took fifteen guys altogether, and think half were infantry and some clerks. Sent us to a 155mm towed gun battalion. I was lucky in that I spent pretty much most of Tet down at Gator, and didn't get serious till after things cooled down. Then it was one OP after another all over the place. Just one un named hill top right after another. I finished out fifteen months later right in the middle of Tet in 69 at a base camp that was held tight by three full strength NVA divisions.
gary
 
Rockpile! I know that place even though I never got up there. I was trained on a 175mm gun, and my orders were cut to send me up near Camp Carrol. It was me and a half dozen others, and they tossed the orders in the garbage can. They took fifteen guys altogether, and think half were infantry and some clerks. Sent us to a 155mm towed gun battalion. I was lucky in that I spent pretty much most of Tet down at Gator, and didn't get serious till after things cooled down. Then it was one OP after another all over the place. Just one un named hill top right after another. I finished out fifteen months later right in the middle of Tet in 69 at a base camp that was held tight by three full strength NVA divisions.
gary

Camp Carrol was our base camp but I did not see it very long. Was at the Rockpile for most of the time. I remember the 175's well. They fired over our position frequently. I still remember the sound of those loose bands on the projectiles whistling as they passed over our position. Good memories and bad all wrapped into one moment of time. Glad it's over and wish it wasn't happening now for some. I pray for those who are going through it now and what many that return will have to live with in their future. For some it will not be a bed of roses. PTSD is nasty for some and others will die from it. I do not envy anyone going to war. It is never over and there are no winners. On the bright side, I'm still living and trying to enjoy it.

Catch you later my friend. ..SARGESNIPER ..SEMPER FI.
 
actually the Forster doesn't need as heavy a bench as the Rockchucker.
gary
Agreed.
I have built some reloading benches with co-ax presses and a rockchucker. The rockchucker puts the most tipping force on the bench and the co-ax puts the least. Put the rockchucker on the end of a picnic table bench and have a fat person sit on the other end.

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