Jerry,
Lets say this was a bit of a black area, had we persevered with the collet die we would have eventually got some good results. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif, but as i said my buddy was tearing his hair out and pacing up and down behind the firing points like a demented lion in a cage, when the suggestion was made to try some different dies he duely purchased a set from the onsite gunshop (Redding standard dies) and "Hey Presto" problem sorted.
My buddys rifle now behaved like it should do, he was happy and it was all left at that. No indepth analysis was made of the problem as to the "whys and hows" this happened, so nothing was ever found out.
A firm dislike of Lee equipment has since then existed,(breaking two Lee presses did'nt help, my buddys a big guy), myself as a qualified master machinist and toolmaker, look at it from quality point of view.
Centre Punch.