I have run it in my 65 Grendel gas gun. Works fine in that rig!
Same way in my Grendel gasser, using 2000MR.
I have run it in my 65 Grendel gas gun. Works fine in that rig!
Id do a load work up but find the performance interesting. Figured it might be worth a tryI have run it in my 65 Grendel gas gun. Works fine in that rig! I probably wouldn't run it in your AR10 at the charges you see here being run in these bolt guns.
Mr. You're dreaming. Anyone who would attempt to shot an Elk at 900 yards is not only bemused, but unscrupulous. Tell about the 'cripples and unrecovered animals' you have left in your wake of unethical shooting of game?I have been using for years the 150 BD and BD2 bullets with MVs of 2920 from a 20"barrel and 3050 from a 24" barrel using Leverevolution which outperforms most 3006 loads. Have killed African Plains Game and a large Alaskan Coastal Black Bear all with single shot DRT kills. The attachment is a JBM trajectory calculation of our 175 gr BD2 bullet propelled from a 24" barrel which I think is entirely achievable for the 308 Win at 4500 ft elevation, which is not an unusual elevation to hunt Elk. The higher you go the better. At 900 yds that bullet still has 1300 ft# of energy snd is traveling at 1836 fps which is at least 100 fps more than is required to get it to expand. What makes this possible, and it is the point of the thread, is using a bullet with a high enough BC that will expand reliably at 1700 fps impact. That has already been done by a friend of mine using our 195 gr bullet with a higher BC from a 300WM at 1225 yds.
Mr. You're dreaming. Anyone who would attempt to shot an Elk at 900 yards is not only bemused, but unscrupulous. Tell about the 'cripples and unrecovered animals' you have left in your wake of unethical shooting of game?
First a disclaimer, Im not that experienced at long range shooting and I'm not that experienced at fine testing loads when reloading.The 308 is a great and efficient round but there isn't a rational discussion to be had on performance. Within a given caliber, a large capacity case will deliver the same bullet faster or a heavier, higher BC bullet as fast as a smaller case. In no way will a handloaded 308 out perform a handloaded 30-06.
If I'm going to chase elk at 900yds I'm going to leave all the 30 calibers at home and take my 338 Edge.
Read the rules about discussing "ETHICS!"Mr. You're dreaming. Anyone who would attempt to shot an Elk at 900 yards is not only bemused, but unscrupulous. Tell about the 'cripples and unrecovered animals' you have left in your wake of unethical shooting of game?
Nez, I got some 2000MR. I know this is off topic, but could you shoot me your load data?Same way in my Grendel gasser, using 2000MR.
Look at the 900 yd line, 1140+ ft-lbs of bullet energy. You need a 26 inch barrel and SRP brass with LVR powder. Not everyone is capable of a shot like that, but it is definitely possible. Need to pick the right conditions. The G7 BC quoted is one I have measured direct with my lab radar by a method which agrees very well with that of AB's Doppler. A friend of mine killed an Elk with one shot at 1225 yds with our195 gr BD2 bullet at 4500 ft with a 300WM and an MV of 2980 and a terminal velocity of 1775 fps producing similar bullet energy. He is quite an expert rifleman.Mr. You're dreaming. Anyone who would attempt to shot an Elk at 900 yards is not only bemused, but unscrupulous. Tell about the 'cripples and unrecovered animals' you have left in your wake of unethical shooting of game?
Mr. You're dreaming. Anyone who would attempt to shot an Elk at 900 yards is not only bemused, but unscrupulous. Tell about the 'cripples and unrecovered animals' you have left in your wake of unethical shooting of game?
Just my thoughts, everyone should know their limits. Mine are not yours and visa versa. There are people that can shoot the same groups at 1000 yds that I shoot at 300. If you have the right bullet, caliber, velocity, energy and practice, your 1000 yard shot is just as "ethical" as my 300 yard shot. Hats off to folks that have that kind of talent and put in the training time.Look at the 900 yd line, 1140+ ft-lbs of bullet energy. You need a 26 inch barrel and SRP brass with LVR powder. Not everyone is capable of a shot like that, but it is definitely possible. Need to pick the right conditions. The G7 BC quoted is one I have measured direct with my lab radar by a method which agrees very well with that of AB's Doppler. A friend of mine killed an Elk with one shot at 1225 yds with our195 gr BD2 bullet at 4500 ft with a 300WM and an MV of 2980 and a terminal velocity of 1775 fps producing similar bullet energy. He is quite an expert rifleman.
I found it works real well in the 243Win, 308 Win and the 300 WSM. Not so well in the 7mm08. Also shows promise in the 223. I can get sub-MOA from my AR and the 55 gr BD2. Don't have a lot of data for that cartridge though.This is a very intresting thread with alot of good information. Cant wait to find some lvr and try it in my bolt gun and see what results I can get. With that has anyone tried using lvr in a ar10 platform? I am finishing my 20" 1:10 twist build and am wondering if its worth trying in the gas gun or not.
You are absolutely correct. Unless you can practice those kind of shots on steel, it's my opinion that one should make use of their hunting and stalking skills to get within a safe range. A successful stalk is just as satisfying as a successful long shot. It's reassuring to have a bullet that can do the long shots, though. At shorter distances they are supremely lethal and behave very reliably and consistently after impact.Just my thoughts, everyone should know their limits. Mine are not yours and visa versa. There are people that can shoot the same groups at 1000 yds that I shoot at 300. If you have the right bullet, caliber, velocity, energy and practice, your 1000 yard shot is just as "ethical" as my 300 yard shot. Hats off to folks that have that kind of talent and put in the training time.
Yes sir! Agree 100%. Getting close makes for a more satisfying hunt. I love my 308 CVA Cascade. Absolute tack driver with 165 grain Accubonds with 43.5 grains of Varget. Hoping one of these days I get the chance to take it on an elk hunt.You are absolutely correct. Unless you can practice those kind of shots on steel, it's my opinion that one should make use of their hunting and stalking skills to get within a safe range. A successful stalk is just as satisfying as a successful long shot. It's reassuring to have a bullet that can do the long shots, though. At shorter distances they are supremely lethal and behave very reliably and consistently after impact.